Thanks for the the suggestions - they are useful indeed. I'd hoped to use radar to hit multiple targets per attack but the first one shattered the formation and they never regrouped. Individual large ships acted as if they had radar detectors but not radar itself as they avoided my attack setups. I finally hunted them down individually by passive sonar, submerging, and backing off at flank to launch at the very edge of vision. The two smaller ones I battle-surfaced on, saving the Mark 16 Thunderfish for sniping a fat liner and escort from 4500m later.
Gotta say I love the new torps and the 5/25 when used individually. Together the ROF is almost halved, rendering the second gun almost moot.
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