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Originally Posted by Umfuld
So you're saying that no law can ever be discussed? Laws are changed all the time. And seeking change in laws is not a crime. I'm not with these dudes either, but it's a bad precident to block people from a political voice. They don't have a chance to win, so let the freaks run. At least you'll know who they are.
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It is no crime to propagate sexual intercourse with children, and behavior that puts the psychological wellbeing of children at risk and cripples all their life as adults? It is not to be refused when one is propagating sexual intercourse with animals? Moral and ethics are not needed to be considered to be the basis of lawmaking? Everything is relative, context-depending, arbitrary? If there would be a llaw allowing it, having sex with dead bodies is acceptable, then, and should not be object to moral disgust?
You guys loose me here. Children of low ages are psychologically not prepared to be made sexual objects for the pleasure of adults perverts. Here, psychology, for a change, can come up with some valid information and data about the developement of juvenile personality, and the developement of babies and young children. Sex with chidlren is abuse of the meanest kind. I reject to relativize such psychopathic behavior for means of a misunderstood and also perverted political correctness. Before they become a normalized, integrated part of social life of a community (which is the case if you accept these perverts to have the same right like others to form a political party) I indeed prefer to see them dead instead. To allow them to built public representation and legal bodies is totally unacceptable. certain things cannot be discussed, they must be excluded from what can be discussed, they must be consoidered as completely undiscussible. Some thing simply must be forbidden, always, without exeptions. Cannibalism as nomal part of social life, for example. Slavery. Or abusing small children. Such things must be unavailable for any kind of tolerance.
The interests of victims of crime I rank unconditionally higher than those of the offender who attacks them.
They speak of children of the age of 12. Do not be fooled. They will also push their hidden agenda. Sex with 10 years old. ( years, 6 years, 4 years. That is what pedophilia is about. It is unlimited to the lower part of the age scale. It is limited upwards, when puberty turns children's bodies into that of young adults.
Ouh, I have been politically uncorrect again and defended the use of physical force to prevent unacceptable things. I even refuse to accept that all things must be judged on a relative scale. I disrupt the peace of the consensus-society, I disturb the tolerance-waltz of the saints. I really should be taught a lection.
I worked with traumatized people in the past, just for some months, but it was enough. Torture, desaster, rape. Before I accept traumatization being done to somebody who is weak and defenseless and easy to manipulate, I prefer the one doing that to be brought to death. Since I know from direct experience what traumatization could mean for a life.
All I can say is if you have tolerance for such a party being allowed to build up, as if it were just a normal regular party like others, subject to public votes, if you accept them to be made an object of public life and defend their right to be driven away only by normal social events (like elections), then all you have is my deepest contempt. Because such a party is no "normal" thing, but anything than "normal". Accepting them on that basis of normality, and you have no spine and no worth as a human being, then. Period. I hope the Dutch will chase these sickos through the street every day they try to constitute their damn party. There shall not be such a party.