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Originally Posted by u crank
Ditto with the Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd. That is why I find it totally unnecessary to criticize the current occupant of the WH. I wouldn't want to get run over just crossing the street.
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Well, that's what happens when there are so few people who can in any way defend Trump; seems to be an endangered species, the Trumpettes, and steadily dwindling...
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Originally Posted by u crank
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I don't recall saying that it did. ...
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...and I didn't say you did. It seems to be a ploy of yours to respond to comments by implying you were misquoted when nothing of the kind happened. If I want to criticize or rebut something you actually said, rest assured I will post the quote in question. There is also another ploy you seem to favor where, if the word "you" is used in a generic sense, you attempt to make it seem the generic use was intended as a personal application towards yourself. Believe me, if someone says "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" the person so saying is neither urging you to be an equine escort nor to commenting on your skills in equine refreshment...
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Originally Posted by u crank
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But you will have to admit she has some power. What is going on in Washington right now kinda says that she does. She leads one of the chambers of the United States Congress. Most people would consider that a powerful position albeit different than the Presidency. Considering the fact that the House can bring articles of impeachment against the President I see it as a very powerful position. Congress can do things the President cannot and they can also stop him from doing things. Your description makes it sound like she is just collecting a paycheck.
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Oh, I never said she doesn't have power; "I don't recall saying" that she didn't...
Meh. The House can bring Articles of Impeachment (really kind of scares you, doesn't it) as a unit, but Pelosi can't bring an impeachment as an individual; she can ask for a vote of the House, but, on her own, she has as much authority on that matter as any other House member. The House Speaker is pretty much a manager; the office mainly entails running herd over the day to day functions of the House as a whole while trying to advance the agenda of their party. Regardless of who is the Speaker, they still need to gather the votes to get what they want done, a task that, over recent years, has got harder and harder given internal party conflicts...
Your interpretation of my description is just that; your interpretation. "I don't recall saying" that she was just collecting a paycheck...
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Frankly I think you are dodging. If you don't want to criticize Pelosi because she is a Democrat just say so. I'll understand. I'm an understanding kinda guy.
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Again, just your interpretation, nothing more. I don't really care if Pelosi is a Dem anymore than it matters that Paul Ryan was GOP. I'm not at all a fan of Pelosi. The only reason she got the Speakership back is because she's a DEM rainmaker: she has a knack for raising very large sums for the DEM party and they were to afraid of losing those sources to stand up to her...
I don't have any party affiliations. I actually liked Paul Ryan and thought well of him and feel it is a shame he was caught up in the no-win situation he was dealt when Trump got in; its a further shame the GOP lost one of its better representatives when Ryan retired; I didn't always agree with him, but I respected his views and appreciated how the rock/hard-place situation was forced on him; remember, he didn't really want the job, but the GOP didn't have anyone else with credibility or gravitas to take the job. You know a party is in bad shape when they have to go nd beg some one to take what is usually considered to be a prestigious position. I was actually surprised he didn't quit earlier given the mess the House GOP was and still is...
As far as dodging is concerned, I have said everything in my posts straight and open, only filtering my temptation to engage in rather more 'descriptive' language.
I say what I believe, free from partisan strictures or the need to try to justify others mistakes or wrongdoings. I will point out, when there seems to be a paucity of fact or lop-sided presentation of poli-gibberish, that there are another viewpoints and there are verifiable truths those who cannot bear to admit they are supporting a tissue of lies would rather not be revealed...
I don't dodge. But I would point out there are those who, rather than actually answering a question or refutation choose instead to play the dodge game of "Well, what about the Clintons/Obamas/DEMs, etc.". I say Trump is a well-documented liar, a well documented sleazy businessman, and a piss poor excuse for a president...
I now await your deflections and dodges. I have come to expect it; but don't worry: "I'll understand. I'm an understanding kinda guy."
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