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Originally Posted by August
Trump is the next generation. You'll remember that it was his predecessor who sent our forces into Syria without Congressional approval. That is supposed to be limited to 90 days. How many years has it been now? He is dealing with the mess by pulling us out before we get more of our people killed.
Yes I have read Matthis' resignation and this is why I agree with the administrations move.
We have no clear military mission in Syria. We originally went into that county to help the rebels fight Assad. We failed in that mission. ISIS is certainly not going to regenerate with Assads forces poised to complete their reconquest of the country. We're not there to fight either the Syrians or the Russians, a possibility which becomes more likely the longer we keep our troops in close proximity with them. Especially such a small force that won't be able to defend themselves.
There has been plenty of hand-wringing on this forum ever since we put troops into Syria and there is even more hand wringing now that we are leaving. People who called us war mongers when we went there now accuse us of abandonment. Well it makes me think that nobody really cares if we are there or not but only complain because it's Trump that wants to do it.
Well yes he is going to do it, and he is also going to pull our people from that 14 year long failed experiment of nation building in Afghanistan too and God bless him for it. We have made no progress in either nation and it's time to cut our losses before we get more of our people killed and maimed. If this is a problem for Germany and the other NATO allies then let them fill the vacuum with their own troops. Maybe it can count in lieu of your unpaid alliance dues.
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August, you seem not to realize, that Germany is in Afghanistan only due to the US request and support after 9/11 and not the other way around. I do not know in which world you live but it cannot be the same in which I live. Maybe you should not belive all tweets from the leader, especially when it comes to facts. He is not very good in that...there are no unpaid alliance dues. Maybe just read the NATO treaty and decisions once again.
And y missed my point regarding MiddleEast, although it is partly my fault because I was not precise enough: I have meant the invastion in Iraq with no clear concept. Part of the consequence is the rise of ISIS. This is what I meant with acting responsible and I have exactly the same view as Mattis here...
And Trump is the next generation....so the 70plus generation if for you the new one ?.
Yes but the whole discussion is really meaningless. I guess the US is a young country and has to make the experience with a "dear" leader by itself. The price will be high but humans are learning best by experience....