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Old 12-17-18, 12:13 PM   #71
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Stay on topic please...My response was directed to BP's use of the same initials posted above.
Fair enough. My whole response was based on the idea that you brought up Tyson in the first place. In a careful search of the whole thread I still managed to miss that it had been posted before. My bad.

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Read page one started by Mapuc. It has to do with death, thoughts, fears etc.
On that I still disagree. To me it seems that you were talking not about death but about proving a point about evidence.

[/quote]Whats your point?[/quote]
My point was that you brought up Tyson and his philosophy out of the blue, with no regard to what went before. But, as said, I missed the post you were responding to, so my point was misplaced. Again, I apologize.

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What is real what is not? Eye witness evidence is when someone says they witnessed or in this case experienced something. Can it be supported or corroborated ? I'm afraid only by others with similar experiences which leaves the rest of the world wondering. But it doesn't make what the person experienced any less real.
True, but observations and experiments involving psychosis indicate that not all perceived experiences are real.

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It does directly challenge the other never proven concept that consciousness and memories are localized in the brain.
You say "never proven", but thus far nothing has been shown that awareness and thought exist without a brain.

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If consciousness is not within the brain not built of flesh and blood then it is not confined by the vitality of the brain.
And yet it has been shown unequivocally that damage to the brain has a direct effect on functions involving thought.

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I'm of the opinion the mind/consciousness/soul or what whatever you want to call it doesn't die with the brain. And you know what? It's OK if you dont agree with that nor do I expect you too.
As I said, damage to the brain has been shown to have a direct effect on consciousness. I find it unreasonable to expect that the ultimate damage - the brain shutting down, then decaying to dust - would result in anything other than complete loss of mental processes. When a severely brain-damaged person dies, is functionality somehow mystically restored to live forever in perfect awareness?

Do near-death experiences indicate that there really is something beyond this life? Or are they simply the result of oxygen starvation that is suddenly reversed? I don't claim to know anything about it, but barring any testable evidence I don't believe anything, one way or the other.
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