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Old 09-22-18, 05:30 PM   #8283
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Originally Posted by skidman View Post
President Tusk was elected by the European Council on August 30th 2014. His country, the 3rd Polish republic, was never sliced by anybody. You are welcome.
Poland has had a history, the third republic did not fall down from heaven, and would not be there if the Poland before would not have been sliced up by its two powerful neighbours.

Tusk was not elected in his EU function by the European people

The concept of majoritarianism is increasingly under criticism, and rightfully so.

It has enormous inner contradictions that put its legitimation into serious question, and it has been corrupted by both the cluelessness of the electorate, business and ideological lobbys bypassing the electorate'S election result, and special interest groups hijacking the decision building in govenrments on behalf of ideologists as well as business. The parasitical self-serving of career potlicians and the power-hunger of poltical parties do the rets of fishing the legitimaiton of this mechanism off.

Personally I nowadays just laugh about any legitimation claimed by this mechanism. If a group of people hold a referendum on whether they shall abuse me or plunder me, and by majority say: yes, this self-legitimaition means nothing to me, and I do not put myself under their command. I fight back at them, if I can. Which mostly I can not. In the end we talk about the law of the jungle and the ruling of the stronger mob. Its a form of tyranny and dicatorship, yes.

So the decision-forming mechanism of so called majoritarianism has problems both by its intrinsic selfdescription and nature, and in its formal implementation that gets seriously corrupted. And democracy in the ancient Greeks' understanding has nothing to do with it anyhow, because for the Greeks democracy meant nothing more than a "feudal" elite ruling the polis and amongst themselves they formed their decisions again by majority votes - from which most of the population were strictly excluded, usually 85-95% of the inhabitants of the cities. This feudal elite of 5-15% of the polis' population was called - citizens.

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