I hear ya but i don't. I have no fear of operating with F12. It's just convenience for a pro

. Btw - just made my mil - as I was leaving Bergen on this patrol - i encountered a sound contact, and followed it will several sound contact updates - turns out it ws a TF. I laid out Courageous. I sunk her - 4 torps - one dud. She blew. Escorts didn't figure me out. Made my mil.
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