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Old 08-20-18, 06:56 PM   #5234
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Are you suggesting that only Republicans do this?

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Not at all; I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOP when they do conduct themselves in unethical and, sometimes, illegal, manners and yet, when someone opposed to them does something similar against them, they rise up in outrage and indignation...

Maybe if the GOP were really, sincerely, and above all, honestly serious about such things as "draining the swamp", they'd first take care to clean up their own muck and mire. Right now, they are little better than those moralizing televangelists who so very often get caught with their pants down and/or their hands in the till. The current occupant of the Oval Office and his minions are of the highest order of offenders against the "principles" touted by the morally outraged GOP. Maybe they should start there in their crusade since its such a mess: I mean, is there no one in the Trump administration that doesn't have a connection to Russian interests, trying to sell influence to access the Oval Office, or who hasn't been ripping off the taxpayers by extravagances?...


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As per my previous post I think the 'goal' is pretty obvious.


...and they are getting very close to that goal and the GOP, by their inaction, their espousing of crap candidates like Trump, Roy Moore and other such non-starters, and their alienation of even more voters every day is making it so much easier to get to the goal...

A while back in this thread, someone posted that 79% of the voters who voted for Trump would do so now as if that was a good sign. Let's look at the numbers. The 79% percent stat actually means 21% of Trump's former voters, that's one of every five, have left the fold, not a bell-ringing endorsement. Let's go further. Trump lost the popular vote by 2,868,686 votes; a loss of 21% of the votes he got in 2016 would be 13,226,814 voters, which, when added to his deficit against Clinton, nets out at 16,095,500 voters he can't fully rely on being in his camp. that's a whopping number to overcome and, as he continues to self-destruct, it looks to only get worse. The Trumpers like to point at his anemic approval ratings as a some sort of a 'good thing' yet Trump has never risen above 50% at any point in his term and has only gained 0.9% in approval since he first took office (41.3% Day 1 versus 42.2% Today):


How popular/unpopular is Donald Trump? --

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/



If you notice, except for a very brief dip down to a 48.8% disapproval rating early on, Trump has been consistently over 50% in disapproval. When you have over 50% of the voters disliking you and your politics, that does not bode well...

Fortunately, for the GOP, things will no doubt improve when President Pence runs 2020...













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