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Old 08-09-18, 07:28 AM   #5169
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[...] He has always been unshaken in supporting the Iranian bomb program. He just learned from Allah who is claimed to be the greatets deceiver of all, and he is not stupid enough to tell the Europeans about it all the time.
Bullsh. You are almost as bad informed as those brexiteers. Just what you feel about something does not hold water on close inspection. You can think about Rouhani what you want, but he sure is no 'hawk'.

"President Rouhani says religion forbids pursuit of WMDs"
"Generals told to let diplomacy do its work"
"Rouhani says Iran will not acquire nuclear weapons 'on principle'

President Hassan Rouhani also urged Iran’s military leaders to let diplomacy prevail in dealing with potential foreign threats, in a clear reference to efforts to end the nuclear dispute and decades of hostile relations with the west"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...pons-principle

The next iranian president will not be that shy for sure.

The US has once more broken a treaty, if it was a real deal or not does not matter. Trump just tries to undo everything Obama did, it is a childish personal thing. If Trump's talks with North Korea have shown anything, it is that you need the bomb to be accepted.
If the deal falls apart, Iran could theoretically restart its nuclear program pretty quickly. Do you think Israel can sleep better now with China and Russia at the backdoor.


quote Jim Buna:
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I was in Iran (Khorramshahr) for a month way back in 77, the Shah had not long left by then and even back then I noticed a change in attitude for the worse toward the west
After the Shah? SAVAK anyone? You don't say?
How repressive was the Shah's regime in Iran before 1979

"Some verifiable history — the CIA [UK operation BOOT, US operation AJAX), operating out of that U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1953, maliciously and illegally overthrew a relatively democratic and liberal parliamentary government, and with it the 1951 Time magazine man of the year Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh, because Mossadegh insisted that Iran’s oil wealth enrich Iranians, rather than foreign corporations. The CIA installed a dictatorship run by the Shah of Iran who quickly became a major source of profits for U.S. weapons makers, and his nation a testing ground for surveillance techniques and human rights abuses. The U.S. government encouraged the Shah’s development of a nuclear energy program. [...]." And so on.

http://www.newclearvision.com/2013/0...-up-in-tehran/

From 2013: An unhappy 60th birthday - The CIA coup of 1953 still resonates in Iran

I do not say that what came afterwards was any better for the civilian people of Persia, but all this sure did not help the western nations win much sympathy.
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