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Old 07-31-18, 07:45 PM   #5119
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I guess that is where we would disagree. Trump says some dumb things , he stretches the truth, he lies, and sometimes he is out of his league. But I don't believe for a minute that he is this monster that Pravda, oops I mean CNN/MSNBC/NYT/WP makes him out to be. For me Trump needs to cross a certain line to be that monster. Trump has yet to weaponize the IRS, the FBI and the DOJ to surveil and attack his political opponents. So far he only uses Twitter. I'm OK with that.

As for Clinton. Well here's a person who was extremely careless with top secret information for a personal gain. She had that private server for only one reason. Pay to play and the Clinton Foundation. The missing 30,000 emails would tell that story. The question is, would that behavior have continued at the White House? I'm going to say yes and probably ramped up. After all .... she'd be the President. She'd have Comey, Brennen, Clapper etc. to watch her back. It would be corruption on steroids.

I do happen to think gross incompetency does cross a serious line, particularly when it impacts an entire nation and its system of government. Maybe I've just gotten used to having someone in the Oval Office who has at least the basic knowledge of how the nation operates; maybe I've gotten use to being led by persons who have more than a tenuous grasp of reality; maybe I've gotten used to being led by persons who do not cause unnecessary problems because they don't have a clue; maybe I don't like the idea of a preening, buffoonish idiot, being the face of our nation...


Maybe I think we deserve better...


But, hey, maybe that's just me...


One item in your response has touched on something the Trumpers have gotten up on their hind legs and howled and whined about for a long time, how Hillary was foolish and careless as Secretary of State with her emails, etc. Somehow, I never hear their anguished cries over the fact Trump has eschewed using high encryption and protected cellphones to conduct official business, some of which is highly sensitive; Trump has been advised by the intelligence agencies and other members of his own staff about not using an unprotected cellphone, but, as he has with other commonsense advice, he has ignored them and continues to use his vanilla cellphone, not exactly an action to be considered as careful and secure; even Obama, who preferred to use a favorite Blackberry model of cell phone had his phone modified to meet security needs and standards...


Who knows, maybe Trump is worried Putin will have a more difficult time keep tabs on him...



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Unkess I'm mistaken, the long mentioned 30,000 emails, have, in fact, been accounted for; I seem to recall some news accounts of how the 'missing' emails were either found on other servers or their contents were found as part of responses to those emails...











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