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Old 07-26-18, 03:23 AM   #5048
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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal View Post
I'm pretty confident that people who oppose him in politics and the media understand they have the power to stir up the welfare class against him through constant bombardments of hysteria and distortions. [...]
Mr. Trump is entirely perfectly personally capable and responsible for creating all the hysteria and distortions, alone.

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Sure, there's a lot of things about Donald Trump to laugh about, but I am beginning to come around to acknowledging he is doing a pretty good job.
Ok leave laughter and despise out, with what exactly is Trump doing a good job? Alienating allies, starting trade wars, lifting North Korea to international eyesight and 'respect', distorting facts and lying, letting Putin interfere with US politics, elections, espionage and technology, not informing his closest advisers, gagging the press (apart from his court reporting agency Fox or Breitbart). Sometimes I am trying to imagine what had happened, had Obama only remotely tried, what Trump does all the time (what did Trump do when Mueller was serving as a marine?).

Trade wars: So some individuals and big business are now paying a bit less taxes (while paying a lot more on goods and products of any type soon because consumer prices will rise) and amuse yourself seeing all neutral and reasonable people being appalled and peed off due to a buffoon trying to act as a politician?

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His policies have caused the EU to come running to Washington and cry "uncle".
Does Trump or you really believe that, or is it just Fox news opinion? Let me just say that America is for now out of the deal, for Europe, and also for Japan and South Korea. Trump has made perfectly clear that we cannot depend on the US, not trade, not defence, we cannot trust and expect fair negotiations, we know that he is doing all to "make America great again" at the expense and disadvantage of all others, and he is isolating the US not only in international trading but also in politics.
I can understand every jota of Trump and his egomaniac behaviour, what i cannot understand is any reasonable person supporting and defending that.

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https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen
Ah, so now no trade war, or a half trade war, or "i never said trade war, you misunderstood me"? Well, this is what i expected. Apart from Europe being a loose aggregation to ease trade and honour certain values, China is one nation disregarding human rights and owning a lot of the US infrastructure, and industry; but maybe they should begin to sell it all, like Russia now does. Bad for your economy? "Wie man in den Wald hinein ruft,..."

Then China, how exactly is trade being unfair to the US?
https://www.cfr.org/blog/right-and-w...-trade-balance
http://econbrowser.com/archives/2018...us-china-trade

Europe, so unfair? You installed key markets and all after WW2 of course with the background of buying opinion and connections, getting your foot in the door while keeping the soviets out of, umm parts of Europe. And now that Russia is not the bad guy anymore it all is suddenly so unfair?
So there is Poland, Hungary, Romania, Czech public, Slovakia and lots of other new players after the freedom-for-all-party.
We now even trade with Russia but Trump says instead of buying gas from Russia we should buy it from the US, via liquid gas transport ships, over 5000 miles over the Atlantic? What for?

Unfair to the US? Thinking of software licenses trade surplus of the US, but not only. Detroit. What do you think brought down the US motor industry? It was not competitive, that's all. Do you think the US mines and steel get more competitive with punity tarriffs against the market abroad?
If there are unfair deals all sides we can all sit down and discuss, but not this way.
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