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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Iceman
God gave moses 10 commandments on the mt. AL and man could not keep 10...
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Really? Why?
Try it, you'll like it. 
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do ya think God is a God that would make entry to heaven so obscure and unobtainable that none could pass the tests? or keep all that was required to enter?..
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Read your Bible: - For this commandment which I command you this day, is not concealed from you, nor is it far away.
It is not in heaven, that you should say, "Who will go up to heaven for us and fetch it for us, to tell [it] to us, so that we can fulfill it?"
Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, "Who will cross to the other side of the sea for us and fetch it for us, to tell [it] to us, so that we can fulfill it?"
Rather,[this] thing is very close to you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can fulfill it.
- Deuteronomy 30:11-14
God gave us Jews 613 commandments, not 10, plus the obligation to abide by Rabbinical laws as well.
We've been doing it for the most part for 3000 or so years. So, where's this problem you keep on referring to?
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just think about that ..what kind of Sic God do you believe in...I believe in one that had the foresight to see so far ahead in the garden of Eden when the fall of man occurred and His angels told him weeds were now growing amongst the wheat if they should Reap it all then and there he said NO...let them grow together until the end and then he would seperate them.
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This is very sweet but it's blah-blah.
BTW, if such a G-d is sick, why on earth do Christians even retain copies of the Old Testament? It's all wrong. Oops.....
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We need not continue this at all AL because I know exactly what you belive in and where you are...you are a slave in bondage to the LAW until the time appointed when your eyes will be re-opened.The Muslim is slave to his way as well, as is the Christian.But they are as different as can be.
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I am a very free person. I make all of my choices in life. Whether they are good or bad choices is up to my conscience and my knowledge.
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See I quote Genesis there...the Christian does not "Discount" the Old testament it is a teaching tool yet he is not under it's bondage like the Jew chooses to be and it is a choice you make.
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It was G-d's commandment to us. Your newfangled religion at the time was just one of numerous similar offshoots at the time. Jesus was a Jewish born blasphemer and false prophet, plain and simple, about whom the Torah states: - Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it.
If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,"
you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul.
You shall follow the Lord, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him.
And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death; because he spoke falsehood about the Lord, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which the Lord, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.
- Deuteronomy 13:1-6
Similarly: - But the prophet who intentionally speaks a word in My name, which I did not command him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.
Now if you say to yourself, "How will we know the word that the Lord did not speak?"
If the prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, and the thing does not occur and does not come about, that is the thing the Lord did not speak. The prophet has spoken it wantonly; you shall not be afraid of him.
- Deuteronomy 18:18-20
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Galatians 3
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
[4] Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
[5] He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[6] Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
[7] Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
[8] And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
[9] So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
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For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[11] But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[12] And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
613 huh?....Good Luck with that..I'll take the obscure fishermen/carpenter you can keep Barabbas.
