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Skybird · 04-19-18, 01:00 PM

In every bar or restaurant I ever sat in, more or less politely you will get asked sooner or later to order something. Its their business model. A restaurant is no bank in a public park

So much of activism over claimed race offences, claimed religion offences, claimed gender offences, claimed feminist offences etc etc are nothing but blown up demonstrations of ruthless egoism with a leftist political lobby.

I already have a problem with that a shop or bar owner cannot freely decide with whom he wishes to engage in transaction, and with whom not. I mean if a KKK-fan denies to accept black people in his shop, so let him have his way today. His choice will be perceived, and will make some audience avoiding him, and another audience going to him. Fine, the consequences of his KKK-attitude this way will find him. That he gets forced to accept just everyone, is not acceptable to me. Only lpublic offices and services, and state services, the law , police and such, have to accept treating everybody equally and non-discriminatory. But private people and private business owners...? Unacceptable.

Imagine me running a small fast food stand, for example. I would not deal quite some people: salafists, neo-nazis as two exmaples. But the state over here can force me to serve these miserable beings nevertheless? It is not my decision whether or not I do enagge in a business transaction wuith them? They are my masters, de facto? Or I own a hotel, and cannot feely refuse to lease my hall to a meeting of some wackos I do not wish to be of service to, I need to arrange fine.tune dlies that allow me to weasel around their request without them suing me for not doing business with them?

Sorry: totally unacceptable. Zero understanding for this from me.

And when there is indeed a racist, just forcing him by law will not make him less a racist. Only will make him even more extreme and bitter.

My house - my rules. Where this is not possible, I would refuse to establish a business. I do not like getting owned by just any stranger or political party.

04-19-18, 01:00 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,705 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In every bar or restaurant I ever sat in, more or less politely you will get asked sooner or later to order something. Its their business model. A restaurant is no bank in a public park So much of activism over claimed race offences, claimed religion offences, claimed gender offences, claimed feminist offences etc etc are nothing but blown up demonstrations of ruthless egoism with a leftist political lobby. I already have a problem with that a shop or bar owner cannot freely decide with whom he wishes to engage in transaction, and with whom not. I mean if a KKK-fan denies to accept black people in his shop, so let him have his way today. His choice will be perceived, and will make some audience avoiding him, and another audience going to him. Fine, the consequences of his KKK-attitude this way will find him. That he gets forced to accept just everyone, is not acceptable to me. Only lpublic offices and services, and state services, the law , police and such, have to accept treating everybody equally and non-discriminatory. But private people and private business owners...? Unacceptable. Imagine me running a small fast food stand, for example. I would not deal quite some people: salafists, neo-nazis as two exmaples. But the state over here can force me to serve these miserable beings nevertheless? It is not my decision whether or not I do enagge in a business transaction wuith them? They are my masters, de facto? Or I own a hotel, and cannot feely refuse to lease my hall to a meeting of some wackos I do not wish to be of service to, I need to arrange fine.tune dlies that allow me to weasel around their request without them suing me for not doing business with them? Sorry: totally unacceptable. Zero understanding for this from me. And when there is indeed a racist, just forcing him by law will not make him less a racist. Only will make him even more extreme and bitter. My house - my rules. Where this is not possible, I would refuse to establish a business. I do not like getting owned by just any stranger or political party. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 04-19-18 at 02:16 PM.