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Old 05-22-06, 01:25 PM   #118
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
Its the fact that both were criminal but the other is still honored.
Why shouldn't the average Soviet soldier be honored for fighting againt Nazism?

I think it's safe to say that the original occupation of 1940 was criminal and terrible. But these aren't monuments to the occupation of 1940, nor are the monuments to the SS legion monuments to fighting against the occupation of 1940, or those continuing to resist after the fall of Hitler's war effort. These are monuments to Soviet soldiers who died fighting against Hitler's regime, 1941-1945 (as it will say on those monuments), fighting on Estonian soil - but what do you suggest, that they don't fight there and just let the SS sit there? These are monuments to the SS legions formed during Hitler's respective occupation of the Baltic, which operated as part of the Nazi system which had genocide written into its ideology and goals as far as the Eastern Front went.

You're really stopping very short of saying that the USSR should have probably been destroyed, i.e. by not resisting Hitler's efforts within and outside its territory. That may have been OK with you, but that's not OK when tens of millions of people die as a result.

Geez, who in this thread ever tried to whitewash anything? It's like you have this filter on your computer that takes out each time that I mention "illegal occupation" or "Stalinist repression". I've said it many, many times; any decent Russian will acknowledge this, or get informed.

Geez

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Its a fact that Stalin said that all Finns should be all moved to Siberia.
1) Stalin was medically paranoid. And it's not like he only said that to the Finns.
2) Stalin never went to fight in Estonia, nor is the monument to mr. Stalin
3) if you want to go there - Stalin was not a Russian

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For the record, by the way, I'm known for being an avid SHIII player and a fan of the German military in the historical sense; I would never dishonor the memory of German soldiers - AS LONG AS it's being commemorated in an appropriate way that does not glorify them as liberators, independence fighters, or some other nonsense like that - only as soldiers.
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