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CCIP · 05-21-06, 09:50 PM

Where did I get it wrong? Teach me.

For one, I'm more than familiar with the history of this; I don't think I'm missing the facts here. There's Soviet, post-Soviet and Western takes on the history under my belt; and I've read the little Legion book too. And I've got relatives in Tallinn. So it's not as though I'm pulling a "mighty Russia for the win!" here.

(by the way, my apologies, the "you" in my last sentence was non-referential, sorry if it ended up the wrong way)

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Thanks for the link. Interesting site, but again, I stress - I know the facts, and I am NOT in any way, shape or form defending anyone here. I'm simply pointing out the indefensible; the rest is fact. One fact is that the Soviet occupation was a crime. Another fact is that Waffen SS is part of an even bigger crime, no matter how you slice it. And the most important fact is that one person's life is not worth more than another's. Defending one's own nation while agreeing to a systematic elimination of another's is barbaric; the Soviets had no plans for eliminating the Baltic - just (very forcefully) making it fall into the same system, whereas the Nazi organization of which Waffen SS is part of had very clear plans for eliminating the peoples of the USSR.

Honoring Waffen SS is honoring independence at the cost of genocide. It's as simple as that.

05-21-06, 09:50 PM	#107
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Where did I get it wrong? Teach me. For one, I'm more than familiar with the history of this; I don't think I'm missing the facts here. There's Soviet, post-Soviet and Western takes on the history under my belt; and I've read the little Legion book too. And I've got relatives in Tallinn. So it's not as though I'm pulling a "mighty Russia for the win!" here. (by the way, my apologies, the "you" in my last sentence was non-referential, sorry if it ended up the wrong way) [edit] Thanks for the link. Interesting site, but again, I stress - I know the facts, and I am NOT in any way, shape or form defending anyone here. I'm simply pointing out the indefensible; the rest is fact. One fact is that the Soviet occupation was a crime. Another fact is that Waffen SS is part of an even bigger crime, no matter how you slice it. And the most important fact is that one person's life is not worth more than another's. Defending one's own nation while agreeing to a systematic elimination of another's is barbaric; the Soviets had no plans for eliminating the Baltic - just (very forcefully) making it fall into the same system, whereas the Nazi organization of which Waffen SS is part of had very clear plans for eliminating the peoples of the USSR. Honoring Waffen SS is honoring independence at the cost of genocide. It's as simple as that. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)