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Old 05-21-06, 09:36 PM   #103
Happy Times
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Originally Posted by CCIP
And which side are you on?

Newsflash: Waffen SS was acknowledged as part of the Nazi organization at Nuremberg and universally condemned. There is no excuses for Waffen SS. Of course not every SS soldier participated in an atrocity, but they were very explicitly signing up into this work. These were Waffen SS soldiers, no more, no less. They share the responsibility for the "humanitarian work" done by Waffen SS on the Eastern Front.

There were Estonian units in the Soviet army fighting against the Germans on the other hand, and this is a monument to this battle specifically - not to NKVD, not to the Soviet army in their role as occupier. There is a big difference.

Again, I repeat, there is NO excuses for Waffen SS. There is no excuses for honoring an essentially Nazi legacy. I don't care HOW you raise your goddamn hand to honor them, you just don't do that. There is no excuses for dishonoring a legacy of those fighting against the Germans and their allies, period.

Happy Times, don't go overboard, please. There is a difference between recognizing history and defending Nazi organizations. Myself nor Type941, nor most Russians, deny the wrongs done by the illegal Soviet occupation of the Baltic. But this just doesn't measure up with Nazism.
Im in the side of truth, not some perverted mockery of history. Well United States recognized the special nature of the Baltic SS units, they defended them. Estonians fighting for USSR were volunteers and considered traitors, wich they were. USSRs crimes compare well with those Nazis did. You dismiss valid points i made, about Russias lack of condemnation of USSRs crimes, in one sentence. Convinient. Are you suggesting i shouldnt honor my countries history in WW2? Then we might have a serious disagreement.
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