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Carotio · 01-25-18, 10:35 AM

https://ekstrabladet.dk/112/peter-ma...riftet/7008191
http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...all-inden-drab

These two articles mention some details left out last week, when they still weren't permitted to be published by medias. Some other forum members have linked to some articles in English, so they may have been read by you allready.
PM is charged for having brought onboard several items, which combined indicate a plan to torture and murder KW and to get rid of the body. He brought a saw, a knife, a sharpened screwdriver, plastic strips, suspension rods and metal tubes.
He is charged of having tied her up at the head, the arms and the legs. He is charged of having beaten her up, cutting her and stabbing her. He is charged of having cut and stabed her 10 times near her vagina and 4 times inside with either a knife and a screwdriver. The theory of the police is that this was a part of a sexual assault other than forced intercourse.
The police believe that PM killed KW after the sexual assault by either strangulating her or by cutting her throat.
As we know, PM was then charged of having dismembered her body, which he has admitted - after her body parts were found.

The case CAN be made as a trial with jurors, since the procecutor demands more than 4 years of emprisonment. HOWEVER, PM can CHOOSE/DECIDE that he prefers a lay judge case. A case with jurors would be with 3 juridical judges and 6 jurors. A lay judge case means he would face 1 juridical judge and 2 lay judges.
This was indeed new to me that PM can choose this himself.

Then another article:
http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...te-forbrydelse

A former friend of PM, who has been his friend for 9 years - he met PM early 2008. Steen Lorck used to sail in the submarines of the Danish navy. As such, he gained much respect from PM. And they developped an open friendship, where they could talk about everything. And one day, there was an episode, which he feels that he has to tell now, because it was a strange statement, which didn't make sence back then, but does today.
One day, PM had said that he dreamed of one day to make the perfect crime in order to be hunted by all authories, by helicopter and everything.
SL chose to ignore it back then and to pretend that he didn't hear it.

On August the 11th at 2pm, he and PM had an agreement to sail Nautilus from Copenhagen to the island Bornholm. Few minutes before PM departed Copenhagen harbour with KW, SL received a sms from PM telling him that the trip to Bornholm was cancelled. SL wondered about it and sent another sms back to ask for the reason, but he didn't get a reply.

And another article:
http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...bet-op-til-den

In this article, the Danish boyfriend of KW tells his story. You can also see some photos of him and her together.
He says that he and KW had rented a house in China, and that they would move there a week later. That's why he and KW had arranged a goodbye party on August 10th with several friends. They lived in a flathouse on Refshaleøen, which is a peninsula in the harbour of Copenhagen.
In the spring of 2017, KW and PM had exchanged emails about his rocket program, where they had discussed making an interview, but nothing came out of it. Until August 10th, when PM sent KW a sms that she could go to his space lab to make the interview with him, but he wanted to make it the very same evening and he wanted to do it in Nautilus.
So KW went back to her boyfriend and discussed it with him. Since they had guests, they decided that he should remain at home instead of going with her, so their guests wouldn't have been left home alone. And then she could go there and be back after a couple of hours.
So she went at around 18.45, and a short while later, the boyfriend and their friends could see Nautllus with KW and PM sail by. KW waved to them, they to her. That was the last time, they saw eachother.
During the following hours, the boyfriend received several sms telling how cool it was etc, and then suddenly it stopped, and there was no more contact. At 01.43, the boyfriend called the police, and at 02.17, he alerted the navy.

The rest is the well-known sad story...

01-25-18, 10:35 AM	#409
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	https://ekstrabladet.dk/112/peter-ma...riftet/7008191 http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...all-inden-drab These two articles mention some details left out last week, when they still weren't permitted to be published by medias. Some other forum members have linked to some articles in English, so they may have been read by you allready. PM is charged for having brought onboard several items, which combined indicate a plan to torture and murder KW and to get rid of the body. He brought a saw, a knife, a sharpened screwdriver, plastic strips, suspension rods and metal tubes. He is charged of having tied her up at the head, the arms and the legs. He is charged of having beaten her up, cutting her and stabbing her. He is charged of having cut and stabed her 10 times near her vagina and 4 times inside with either a knife and a screwdriver. The theory of the police is that this was a part of a sexual assault other than forced intercourse. The police believe that PM killed KW after the sexual assault by either strangulating her or by cutting her throat. As we know, PM was then charged of having dismembered her body, which he has admitted - after her body parts were found. The case CAN be made as a trial with jurors, since the procecutor demands more than 4 years of emprisonment. HOWEVER, PM can CHOOSE/DECIDE that he prefers a lay judge case. A case with jurors would be with 3 juridical judges and 6 jurors. A lay judge case means he would face 1 juridical judge and 2 lay judges. This was indeed new to me that PM can choose this himself. Then another article: http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...te-forbrydelse A former friend of PM, who has been his friend for 9 years - he met PM early 2008. Steen Lorck used to sail in the submarines of the Danish navy. As such, he gained much respect from PM. And they developped an open friendship, where they could talk about everything. And one day, there was an episode, which he feels that he has to tell now, because it was a strange statement, which didn't make sence back then, but does today. One day, PM had said that he dreamed of one day to make the perfect crime in order to be hunted by all authories, by helicopter and everything. SL chose to ignore it back then and to pretend that he didn't hear it. On August the 11th at 2pm, he and PM had an agreement to sail Nautilus from Copenhagen to the island Bornholm. Few minutes before PM departed Copenhagen harbour with KW, SL received a sms from PM telling him that the trip to Bornholm was cancelled. SL wondered about it and sent another sms back to ask for the reason, but he didn't get a reply. And another article: http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2018-01-...bet-op-til-den In this article, the Danish boyfriend of KW tells his story. You can also see some photos of him and her together. He says that he and KW had rented a house in China, and that they would move there a week later. That's why he and KW had arranged a goodbye party on August 10th with several friends. They lived in a flathouse on Refshaleøen, which is a peninsula in the harbour of Copenhagen. In the spring of 2017, KW and PM had exchanged emails about his rocket program, where they had discussed making an interview, but nothing came out of it. Until August 10th, when PM sent KW a sms that she could go to his space lab to make the interview with him, but he wanted to make it the very same evening and he wanted to do it in Nautilus. So KW went back to her boyfriend and discussed it with him. Since they had guests, they decided that he should remain at home instead of going with her, so their guests wouldn't have been left home alone. And then she could go there and be back after a couple of hours. So she went at around 18.45, and a short while later, the boyfriend and their friends could see Nautllus with KW and PM sail by. KW waved to them, they to her. That was the last time, they saw eachother. During the following hours, the boyfriend received several sms telling how cool it was etc, and then suddenly it stopped, and there was no more contact. At 01.43, the boyfriend called the police, and at 02.17, he alerted the navy. The rest is the well-known sad story... __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano Last edited by Carotio; 01-25-18 at 10:55 AM.