[Skybird]

For such debate, I always considered it to be a good idea to keep totalitarism and communism two separate things, and to keep capitalism and democracy two separate tings as well. It's sort of antagonistic.

And communism and democracy suffer from the same misperception: that man is reasonable, altruistic, and good. If we really were like that, the world wouldn't be where it currently is - and that is not an encouraging state.

I think both things, democarcy and communism, only works in social communties of that size, and not bigger. Beyond that, both turn into feudal structures again. We see it in Europe, we see it in Russia, in the US, and in China as well. Neither communism nor democracy work for communities of that size. In both cases, self-declared pseudo-elites emerge and ursurp power.

Accoridng to Chaos theories, systems of a given structural complexity level can only grow so far ion that level, if they grow bigger in size, the system goes into a phase of chaotic recostruction- and re-emerges on a higher complexity level again, with a structural order that is completely new. It may hold the solutions to all problems of the lower levels (earlier developement) phases, but it comes at the price of new problems that are not present on lower levels of the hierarchy of previous orders.

However, if the system on a given developement level and of a given comkplexity sturcture grows in size beyond that barrier and does not turn chaotic and then transform into a system of higher complexity, if this system instead only grows and adds more and more single peices to the old structure, it suffers from more and more probpems, and sooner or later dies. There is no such thing as unlimited growth, and each structural level has it'S limits for size. Uncontrolled growth is something that is known in medicine: uncontrolled cellular growth, it is called a tumor, or cancer. Our communties suffer fro this kind of cancer, too, may it be with regard to traffic systems and road networks, may it be with regard to interactive finance structures, may it be with regard to the distribution of powers in representative bodies and offices, may it be with the self-dynamic of our industrial and economical structures.