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Thanks guys. That's a lot of good info, I will have to incorporate it into my tactics.

All I can say is, after so many years playing Russian subs on dangerous waters, I miss them soooo much. I don't know how the realism stacks up, but it seemed like they accelerated and maneuvered much faster then my 688, and I miss having more tubes, (14 on an improved akula makes the 4 on the 688 feel horribly inadequate.) and I miss my shkvals and Asw missiles. I dunno, in my Akula or Victor in DW, despite the quieting and sonar disadvantage, I felt like I had more options and better control of a situation XD

I guess moral of the story is, when I finish the campaign, it may be time to try the soviet sub mod.....