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A-Ganger · 09-01-17, 12:31 PM

I've been having this discussion with the guys over at the RA Mod website (RU).
Since they've changed the Captor mines anchoring system to work like real world mines, they've almost made launching these mines from the P3 pointless.

They linked me this:
https://translate.google.ru/translat...-text=&act=url

In deep water they anchor at 1476 feet. YET on the P3 you still have settings of surface, shallow, deep and bottom! Unclear why the changed anchoring model yet didn't remove the ability to set the depth?

This is their weapons RA info:
MK 60 CAPTOR Moored Mine (CAPsulated Torpedo, P3 Orion Payload)
Contains a Mark 46 Torpedo, which is released once the CAPTOR detects an Enemy Submarine.
Sensor Max Range: 6,000 Yards (effective range 2 nm)
Max Depth Bottom at place installation: 2998 ft (914 m.)
Mark 46 Captor Torpedo - Range: 11.112 m (12,000 Yards). Depth - 1500 ft (457 m.)
Mk 60 Setting Depth: Automatically after launch by user.
At water depths up to 230 meters (754ft) of the mine is set in the bottom position of 7.5 m from the ground. At water depths between 230-460 meters (754-1509ft), put mines is equal to half the depth of space, and at a bottom depth more than 460 meters, it is 305 meters (1000 ft), which is close to the limit.
In order to set the CARTOP at 100 ft (30 m.) with a large depth of the bottom, set the mode of the “Shallow” in mine preset.
Passive sonar detection channel, work is in the standby mode, listening 30-50 seconds every 3 minutes. The torpedo Mk.46 launched when mine equipment classifies Target as a hostile submarine, located in a submerged position.
NOTE: Only general device has the block of classification of the target.
The torpedo can be induced on the ship if he will be found out by a torpedo.

I can tell you that these do not work. Yesterday I dropped 5 Captors in deep water, they all went to 1476 feet.
Enemy sub drove so close to 1 mine (sub @ 900ft, mine @ 1476 ft) I could see the sub while looking at the 3d view of that mine. Captor NEVER launched? Maybe it was on it's cooldown, no way to tell.
However, the sub continued on and drove right by 2 other Captors all within 1 nm of sub..NEVER EVER LAUNCHED any of them. All mines on cooldown at same time> Highly unlikely since they were dropped over a 10 min time frame.

Now one other confusing point from they link they sent me. Where it discusses the The Main TTX Mk.60 Captor
After the pressure inside the mine shell is equalized with the external hydrostatic pressure, the top cover of the shell opens. At the same time, the torpedo engine starts, and it exits the mine body, circulates in the vertical plane and enters the search depth (the latter is set when the mine is equipped).

The last part: Is this to referring to the settings in the P3 (surface,shallow,deep,bottom) for the Captor?
Meaning you are setting the search depth from the P3?
That would make no sense! When it shoots at a target the torpedo would obviously home in on the target regardless of target depth.

Lastly, their own RA Weapons description is wrong.
It states; In order to set the CARTOP at 100 ft (30 m.) with a large depth of the bottom, set the mode of the “Shallow” in mine preset.

What is (a large depth of bottom)? It's unclear/undefined and I can tell you that in deep water, NONE of the P3 settings have any affect on the depth of the mine. They all go to 1476 feet.

09-01-17, 12:31 PM	#11
A-Ganger Sparky Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 158 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I've been having this discussion with the guys over at the RA Mod website (RU). Since they've changed the Captor mines anchoring system to work like real world mines, they've almost made launching these mines from the P3 pointless. They linked me this: https://translate.google.ru/translat...-text=&act=url In deep water they anchor at 1476 feet. YET on the P3 you still have settings of surface, shallow, deep and bottom! Unclear why the changed anchoring model yet didn't remove the ability to set the depth? This is their weapons RA info: MK 60 CAPTOR Moored Mine (CAPsulated Torpedo, P3 Orion Payload) Contains a Mark 46 Torpedo, which is released once the CAPTOR detects an Enemy Submarine. Sensor Max Range: 6,000 Yards (effective range 2 nm) Max Depth Bottom at place installation: 2998 ft (914 m.) Mark 46 Captor Torpedo - Range: 11.112 m (12,000 Yards). Depth - 1500 ft (457 m.) Mk 60 Setting Depth: Automatically after launch by user. At water depths up to 230 meters (754ft) of the mine is set in the bottom position of 7.5 m from the ground. At water depths between 230-460 meters (754-1509ft), put mines is equal to half the depth of space, and at a bottom depth more than 460 meters, it is 305 meters (1000 ft), which is close to the limit. In order to set the CARTOP at 100 ft (30 m.) with a large depth of the bottom, set the mode of the “Shallow” in mine preset. Passive sonar detection channel, work is in the standby mode, listening 30-50 seconds every 3 minutes. The torpedo Mk.46 launched when mine equipment classifies Target as a hostile submarine, located in a submerged position. NOTE: Only general device has the block of classification of the target. The torpedo can be induced on the ship if he will be found out by a torpedo. I can tell you that these do not work. Yesterday I dropped 5 Captors in deep water, they all went to 1476 feet. Enemy sub drove so close to 1 mine (sub @ 900ft, mine @ 1476 ft) I could see the sub while looking at the 3d view of that mine. Captor NEVER launched? Maybe it was on it's cooldown, no way to tell. However, the sub continued on and drove right by 2 other Captors all within 1 nm of sub..NEVER EVER LAUNCHED any of them. All mines on cooldown at same time> Highly unlikely since they were dropped over a 10 min time frame. Now one other confusing point from they link they sent me. Where it discusses the The Main TTX Mk.60 Captor After the pressure inside the mine shell is equalized with the external hydrostatic pressure, the top cover of the shell opens. At the same time, the torpedo engine starts, and it exits the mine body, circulates in the vertical plane and enters the search depth (*the latter is set when the mine is equipped).* The last part: *Is this to referring to the settings in the P3 (surface,shallow,deep,bottom) for the Captor?* Meaning you are setting the search depth from the P3? That would make no sense! When it shoots at a target the torpedo would obviously home in on the target regardless of target depth. Lastly, their own RA Weapons description is wrong. It states; In order to set the CARTOP at 100 ft (30 m.) with a large depth of the bottom, set the mode of the “Shallow” in mine preset. What is (a large depth of bottom)? It's unclear/undefined and I can tell you that in deep water, NONE of the P3 settings have any affect on the depth of the mine. They all go to 1476 feet.