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Old 06-20-17, 06:06 AM   #3172
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
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Wasn't Obama going to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator? Whatever came of that?


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He did, Trump is his puppet .
@Rockstar i was astonished that you were joking.
Were you?

It took me two days to find you might take this for real? Obama against Trump? "Deep state"? A "left" conspiracy?

Deep state was originally a definition formed to describe a right-wing alliance between secret services and the military industrial complex, now the right media have turned it around and accuses "the left" for being exactly that

My take is that Trump damages himself without needing any exterior help. If there exists any "alliance" against Trump i would call that reason and common sense, no need for an allegedly arranged illegal alliance or other conspiracy theories. The general media are not automatically "left" just because they criticize Trump, it is plain neutral observation. The real left is much more direct and insulting. That the right now considers mainstream as "left" speaks volumes of what a shift has happened.
And the right yes-media, well no comment needed. I remember exactly how they called the other 51 percent snowflakes, traitors and "butthurt". They missed no low in their glee.

Still, if Trump does not commit a crime there can be no legal reason to force him out of office. And then he of course should stay. He is the elected president, and I still see no evidence among all those accusations, regardless of what one thinks of him. Other presidents have survived other media storms, but they were probably not so thin-skinned.
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