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Old 06-18-17, 09:04 AM   #127
denis_469
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Originally Posted by PL_Harpoon View Post
Can you tell us what was your source for all this data?
All write in open sources. First my ebook was for Headquarters Northern fleet in Severomorsk in 2000 year. After it I receive more data and write in himself. Except my write naval weapons for HQ Northern fleet I not place information. I have my site and write describe torpedoes an missiles as I wish.

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And, since you seem to have more knowledge of Soviet torpedoes than anyone else in this thread perhaps you now whatt type of warhead are used in Soviet torpedoes in the game (UMGT-1, Test-71, USET-80, SET-65, in case you don't have the game)?
Usually warheads. Morskaya smes in Russian.

I have not Cold waters, so not know what torpedoes in you game.

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There is a slight problem with using this data in a game though. As far as I know, acquisition range for torpedoes is constant, meaning, if you set torpedo range to 4000 yards it will always detect anything within that 4kyds regardless of any coating. And not every Soviet sub in the game has them (looking at the files, Novembers and Alfas don't).
Exept November all subs have coating. And Alfa like.

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But, since most of them have, I'll leave Mk48 range at 1600 yards.
As for other torpedoes, looking at this data shows that (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong):

Test-71 - should have detection range of 2600 yds (your site says it's 800m, but was released from 1976 so it was tested against coated subs, so 800m*3 converted to yards is around 2600

SET-65 - theoretically it should have the same range as Test-71, but since the set-65 is used by the '68 era subs I've decided to use earlier models, which means 400-600m for surface vessels. For a torpedo in the game I think 400 yds is a good number.

USET-80 and UMGT-1 - your site tells us it's 1500m. If we assume it's against coated subs, so the range against uncoated US vessels in the game should be 4500m = 4900 yds. A bit much, but that's considering the ration of detecting coated/uncoated sub is 3:1 (is there any example of a torpedo being tested against both for reference?
Data about torpedoes you can easy read. About correlation ranges: during 1960-1980 years was near 3, so range was small. After it proportion lesser and now in last modern torpedos is like 2000 meters with coating and 3000 meters without coating. It is not data modern homing system, simple for understand modern proportion. So power homing system near high level in range and so defference between cuts. In 2020 years, I think, that deferrence endede and coating woud not cuts find ranges for modern homing systems. During 1990-2000 years was near 1,5-2 and now less 1,5.

All soviet (Russian) torpedoes testing against our subs with coating after 1960 years.

And more: what I write like proportion 3:1 - it is in excellent sea condition. In really ocean proportion must less. For torpedoes this period near 2,3 - 2,5 I think. When you read about torpedoes homing ranges so see in homing systems. UMGT-1 and USET-80 have identical homing system Vodopad. So data about range identical. For 1984 year you need made SET-65 III modification. In 1986 year SET-65K modofication. With other soviet torpedoes you need made last modificaton for year. So first SET-65 and SET-65K too defference between.
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