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Old 05-24-17, 04:07 PM   #45
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The Assassins operated in ancient times and were by all standards a terrorist organization. Terror has a long history. India saw it, Palestine/Israel saw it.
Assassins kill selected targets, they do not commit mass-slaughtering of women and children. Or did they?
Whatever may be the case, I rather look at what happens now.
And now, Europe is in peril, with a rather bad prognosis.

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It becomes an issue when you want to see it end.
I disagree. I see what you're getting it though.

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Oh that is not correct. Buddhist terror has happened in this decade. Christian terror: The Italian mafia's killings of judges, policemen, priests and others, the Mexican drug cartels' grip on the entire Mexican society where femicide now is running rampant, it's terror by definition. For political gains, for power.
Yes, the infamous Buddhist terror attacks, don't we all remember the countless attacks, globally, with thousands of victims, over decades.
And the Italian Mafia? Drug Cartels?
These are completely different issues, with incomparable dimensions.

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No different from the proposals of literally dropping nukes on the entire Middle East.
Yes. Right. Demanding that European politicians start to talk openly about Islam instead of repeating the same PC-nonsense of freedom, diversity and being so strong together - while bombs go off left and right - is the same as to ask for dropping nukes on the middle east...
It's basically synonymous, right?

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Again I agree. I don't know either. There are points one have to look at though. Western/Russian involvement in these areas, French colonialism today, our domestically tendency [...]
Nothing of that influenced the content of the Quran. Nothing.

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No civil war but why ban it? For all I care all religion could be banned as a favour to all of us but nah.
No civil war?
Considering the amount of Muslims in Europe, a ban of what is most important to them would most likely lead to a civil war. Protests would get insanely violent, because too many Muslims cannot control themselves when it is about their ideology. I experienced this multiple times, in person. As soon as you criticize (and I mean criticize, not insult or slander!) their beliefs, they completely lose it. God help you if you're alone with them if it happens, or worse: If they are in a group, while you're not.
I've been in these situations, and I learned my lesson: Islam means peace.

For all I care, yes, all religion could just disappear. In my opinion mankind should be advanced enough by now to understand how silly it is to believe in fantasy stories that are thousands of years old and unproven, even having these fantasy stories control their lives.
It is beyond stupid in my opinion - but as long as the Religion in question does not cause too many problems, let alone affect me directly, I don't care - to each his own!
If people following this ideology start to commit murder, and I see that ideology spread where I was born and raised up, in peace, I do start to worry.

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The opposite of, or alternative to, freedom of religion is called what? Beside, which religion, if only one, should win? My religion? I have no religion. Your? The Catholics'? Protestants? Or the old religion before it was destroyed by an intruding religion? Which religion, or no religion at all?
No religion at all.
However, I am not saying "ban religion", it simply isn't possible, as I stated earlier. It is too inter-woven with our cultures and societies, of course.
And in the end I wouldn't care as long as no one suffers from it.
As I said: We cannot ban it. I made no statement if we should, or not, either.

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Where do you get your facts from?
Various sources over the last ten years.
If you google for demographic studies and observations regarding Islam in Europe, you will sure find a lot on it.

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I'll take that as a prediction. Not a stating of facts as neither you nor I have a working crystal ball. I am not that worried...
Did I say it is a fact?
It is the future, so yes, it is a prediction - what else?
But these predictions rely on demographics, history and other data.

Also: Not that worried?


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It's not about being PC. It's about avoiding attrocities that can be avoided if we deal with the real, underlying problems which also include getting those who work in the shadows who are well protected behind laws and apathy.
What are the real problems?
Again, what from today, has influenced the content of the Quran and Sharia? Nothing.
It is what it is. PC people just try to find some magic reasons to shift the blame - for whatever reason.
Why is it not OK to come to the conclusion that the ideology of Islam is dangerous?

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Last: How many Islamist attacks from the 4 million muslims in South America? What is South America's involvement in the Middle East? Any correlation?
Well, 4 million Muslims all over South America?
No wonder there is not much going on in that regard.
Give it time... let them spread a bit more, you'll see.

Let's look at it globally:




So let's assume these numbers are way off, even by, let's say, crazy 50%.
Wouldn't that still be enough to finally realize something's a tiddy tad wrong with that ideology, and why having Europe - or whatever place - flooded with it, is a terrible, terrible idea?

If you really think none of this is a problem, or even not true, so be it. I'm not here to convince you. I don't care, and said about Islam what I can say at this point.
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