[Happy Times]

• OK. That's not a mindset, that's a fact.
  
  Note some of the additions I made above - and what are the EU and the US offering Ukraine and Georgia? Are you willing to pay your money, or perhaps even your jobs, to help put the average Ukrainian or Georgian on their feet?

  They are being offered the oportunity to become part of family of democracies, its all about peace and properity over nationalism and war. The EU has allready taken and is taking in every ex soviet satellite or colony, if it was only about money it wouldnt have happened.

  The fact is that both Ukraine and Georgia are bad apples for the EU or the US to pick, and the US's one and only interest in them is as pointed sticks against Russia.

  There are also other neighbour states that Russia has threatened or pressured, but what have these two did against Russia ? What do you ment by saying they are sticks pointed against Russia?

  I've no doubt the Cold War is continuing in some sense, and I've no doubt Russians have ambitions. But my view is that, as with the last one, the West isn't any less responsible for causing it than the "East".

  You say Russia has ambitions, what kind? Territorial? Wonder how its Wests fault if these countries flock for cover..