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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat
nice dance move there skippy.
so...still no proof of collusion between Trump and the Russians I see... 
please feel free to post when you actually have some facts.  |
If you bothered to
actually read carefully any of my previous posts on the Russian situation instead of engaging in juvenile schoolyard antics, relying on knee-jerk reactions instead of arguing facts, you would know I have repeatedly said I do
not, let me repeat that in case you need to read it more than once,
not, at this time, believe there is any proof Trump is/was directly involved in the Trump Campaign/Russian influence controversy; I have stated so before on multiple occasions and do so again. So, I don't have any facts to post on Trump's possible personal involvement. Life is so much easier when you actually pay attention...
However, I do believe there is more than ample proof there was questionable contact between Trump campaign associates and Russian political actors. If you want actual proof of that, I give you Michael Flynn, who has admitted to such and who has tacitly admitted to lying both to Congress and to Federal investigators about his activities, itself an actual Federal crime; his paper and records are also under a Senate subpoena since he has refused to deliver them without an immunity deal. I also give you Jeff Sessions, who has been found to have also lied to Congress about his dealings with Russian actors and has likewise thus committed a Federal crime; the fact he is still Attorney General is indeed remarkable for an ostensibly "law & order" administration. Others, like Page, Manafort, et al, are on the cusp of having subpoenas issued on them; all have already received formal requests, a step short of an actual subpoenas, to turn over documents to various investigatory agencies. The very fact subpoenas are being issued by the FBI, the Senate, the House, and at least one Federal Grand jury is a very significant indicator of how far the investigations have gone and how very serious they are: subpoenas are very serious and are not issued lightly...
While Trump has not been connected personally to the activities of his cronies, his actions regarding the investigations, in his official capacity as POTUS, have been those of a man desperately trying to hide possible guilt than those of a person who is above reproach. In fact, his latest action, the firing of the FBI Director, is an actual act of obstruction of justice and itself an actual Federal crime, and, by his own personal, recorded admission in a recent interview, he ordered the firing for the sole purpose of curtailing the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaign/Russian influence scandals. There are Constitutional and legal experts, from all parts of the political spectrum, and far more knowledgeable than you or I, who have pointed out additional charges that could be levied if Congress or the investigating agencies saw fit to do so. So, while I can't offer any facts of Trump's connection to Russia, Trump, himself, is providing ever-increasing proof of criminality and unsuitability for office. No one really has to 'go after Trump': he's doing the job himself and, in typical Trump fashion, it appears when the hammer does come down, it will be "Yuuuge!!"...
So, then, I have more than once provided actual, verifiable cites for my postings and you have done little more than to engage in vague, juvenile heckling with out a single shred of counter-proof to support anything you claim. You mock Politifact, but, even like Breitbart, it like a broken clock, can be right sometimes. The only reason I used the Politifact article was because, after trying to find a concise article/source, they were the only one I could find that put the whole question into a relatable timeline. Mock, if you wish, the source (God knows a lot of us have mocked Breitbart, etc.), but I have yet to see you actually rebut the content of the article; in fact I have very rarely seen you rebut any of the arguments given by other with actual counter-facts or data; all we tend to see is schoolyard "sez you" sort of rhetoric...
Come back when you have some actual articulate facts or data to support your bluster; until then, enjoy your time on the swings and teeter-totter...
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