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Old 04-24-17, 10:01 PM   #7
vienna
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Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
Speaking of acting like grown-ups and big spoiled babies. Dude, did you even bother to read the lifer-times story you linked too? I did, but I don't understand why you linked too it because it has absolutley nothing to do with the latest rant of yours.
I think you are speciously conflating two separate posts in an effort to deflect from either of the points I was trying to make. The Navy Times article (which, yes, I did read, thoroughly) was cited as an illustration of how the whole Carl Vinson "brouhaha" was a product of the mismanagement and lack of knowledge and experience of the current inhabitants of the White House. If the details of the mess doesn't fit into your 'sunshine and lollipops' rose-colored view of the current administration, well, there's no helping that; I do feel the people who the US government sends into harm's way deserve way better than the leadership they have now...

Oh, and yes, there are ways to know where the Vinson is and what it is doing; the problem is the guy who should know, and who is making the decisions, obviously doesn't know; maybe you could email him that Facebook link...

The second post had nothing really to do with the first, other than the perpetrators are the same bunch; the issue in the second post was how the administration, and its apologists, seek to place the blame for their shortcomings and failures on everyone other than themselves; with great power comes great responsibility: the current administration seems to want the power but not the responsibility. It takes more than just sticking 'patriot', or freedom' or 'America' on everything they was to slip past the citizens as they bumble their way through governance. They want credit for the little good they've done, they've got took take responsibility the lot of bad they've done, too. If their policies and actions can't stand muster when stripped of their "rah-rah" hyperbole, then they have little to show for their efforts...

Getting back to the subject of the thread, the situation with NK is indeed very serious and it needs not someone who acts like a leader, but who is a leader. The threat of the possible consequences of whatever action is deserving of leadership that is, to quote someone you respect and admire, "sad, weak"...



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