[August]

Originally Posted by Castout

Teachers who find their purpose is in teaching will teach.

And what happens if not enough people decide that their purpose in life is to be a teacher? How will you convince others to give up their own dreams and plans in order to make up the shortfall?

Everything will be produced without cost. The building will be free. Factories run to produce things that are needed not to produce the things that will be sold.

You can't produce anything without cost. If not in money then in resources and peoples time. Whose building materials are you going to use to build this free school? How are you going to convince anyone to spend their time and effort to assemble it? I don't care about your kids free education. Construction is a dirty job that very few people would ever want to do without some form of compensation. That goes for all dirty jobs (indeed all jobs) including those in factories even if they are producing needed things.

Imagine now, really imagine, you could have everything you wanted, for free. A PC or two? Free, a car or two, free. A home, free. A laptop, free. A cellphone, free. Internet? free, traveling, free. Education, free. Watches, free, health care free and of the best quality possible instead of being constrained by cost.

I can imagine all kinds of things but it comes back to the same question. How are you going to create and supply them? Whose resources are going to be used to give me all this free stuff? Whose time and effort is going to create/assemble them?

What would you do if you no longer worry about having to meet your needs? When you have your answer then question yourself then what will you do after that. Keep on asking yourself then what will you do.

Well anyone who has ever contemplated winning the lottery has done that particular mental exercise in detail but it's academic unless one actually has a winning lottery ticket in his hand. In your money-less world theory you have an enormous gap between theory and practice and you really need to explain how this could possibly work because so far you haven't convinced anyone the concept is valid.

There will be no such people. Dirty jobs can be done by robots whenever possible. Today there are no people willing to do dirty jobs either. They are doing it simply because they have no other choice. Given proper education, they could become as successful as anybody.

Well first off robots can't do all or even most dirty jobs so you have another huge labor gap there that will have to be staffed by human beings for the foreseeable future and you're wrong about people today not being willing to do them either. They do it for enough compensation.

Money in itself has no value. Our monetary system is an agreement. That's all. So does a money-less society. It's an agreement just like money where people work and produce products and services for purpose and meaning, all for free.

The problem is you make things far more complicated (to the point of impossibility) by eliminating monetary compensation. You just can't create purpose and meaning out of thin air. Remember it's your purpose and meaning not that of the people who would have to do the actual work.

If a person cannot truly understand this then I'm afraid he or she is not equipped for such a society being the products of money age.

So what is the final solution for these people? They're going to keep consuming the free stuff and draining your societies resources. How do you prevent it?

When you take away money ...... You take away the reason for tyranny (the accumulation of power).

Since when has power ever been limited to the acquisition of money? Power is about exercising control over others and you can do that like you say below in many other ways but it's the control that's important not the means and the lust for power would be just as present in your money-less society as it is in our present one.

When you take away money, resource allocation becomes the way to govern a human society. Big projects such as deep sea mining, under water cities, massive-scale moon mining, mining of other planets would become possible having been freed from the constraints of money. When you take away money you take away the reason to destroy the planet. Our production will be focused on sustainability.

The government that you'd need to force people to go along with this would have to be more ruthless and pervasive than any other ever seen on this earth. Your concept depends on complete cooperation and motivation by everyone and you just won't get it. Human beings are not sheep. They can and will fight back against such tyranny and once they do the whole house of cards will come down. And unlike the barbarians of old you won't even have any way of buying them off!