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Originally Posted by Castout
I think trying to explain this is a moot point when people don't want to think and keep asking the same thing.
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And I think it's easier to dismiss what want to rather than actually think about the questions.
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Plus, there's so much hostility when none is needed. The unwillingness to really think through this and repeating the same questions made it obvious that men have been so perverse that they believe money is a goal unto itself.
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No hostility on my part, whatever you may tell yourself. I keep repeating the same questions because you keep repeating the same sermon without the slightest hint of how it's to be accomplished.
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We work for money so if there's no money we won't work....it's pathetic...the conditioning has been thought of being natural. The tyranny of money.
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What exactly would you work for? What would you contribute? Would you collect garbage or dig ditches just because it needs to be done?
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Money is what leading to self-gratification.
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Not at all. People see cool stuff like a boat or sports car and want one for themselves. If they can't have one they'll steal it...or work for it. "I'll work for you doing whatever you want for a specified period if you'll give me your boat." "I only have one." So how does the person go about getting his own? And guess what? If the other guy wants a boat it isn't money that motivates his desire, it's his longing for the boat. How does he get one?
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How? again by getting rid of money altogether and making everything free so we can produce what we can not what's affordable.
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And you repeat the same homily again without thinking about the real question. Not even the people you refer to can answer that.
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Originally Posted by Castout
I haven't even argued anything...I let you live in your bubbles. I'm sorry for you.
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No, you've preached, and expected people to accept without question. And now you stoop to accusing others of doing what you do yourself, i.e. "live in bubbles". Sorry for us? That's exactly the same as the Believer saying "I'll pray for you". It's arrogant and dismissive. As with any religion, I neither believe nor disbelieve, neither accept nor reject. But I do question everything, because without questions you can't get to the answers. You need to figure out exactly how this is supposed to work. Otherwise it's simple preaching and nothing else.
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There are no questions or argument worth discussing from my point of view. All I did was trying to explain the idea. There has never been any argument in the first place just people perceiving there are some arguments.
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Oh, but you have argued, over and over. Stating an idea and being willing to discuss it is one thing. Proposing that idea as "the only solution" is an argument in itself. You don't seem to have an answer for any of the hard questions, so you go back to repeating the same one idea. You accuse anyone who disagrees as lacking logic or not thinking it through, yet you don't seem to have actually thought about it at all, just repeated the Gospel that you've recently heard.
As for this all being a dream, I'm with Skybird. Please show us some evidence. Real, empirical evidence.