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Originally Posted by Von Due
It was stated in the post above mine that if we remove money from society, the result would be a society that required an iron fisted and so on goverment. I question whether or not it is required, as it was stated. Money have been around for less than 20,000 years. Societies have been around for 100s of 1000s of years. The Hadza people are very much alive today. Do they live in an oppressive society? What I am questioning is precisely correlation vs causation but also if the statement I referred to isn't rooted in the application of rules of one game to a fundamentally different game.
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Just like all utopians, you are blind. Blind to the fact that moneyless societies are stone age societies. What gave us quality of life, medical care, houses not of mud and straw, where people live beyond the age of 25, where the weak are protected and the innocent are not defenseless, where people meet the needs of others because it is worth their while and improves their own lives. The "enlightened" philosophers of the moneyless society would create a society where their useless ilk would be cast aside and allowed to die. And I would not argue with that decision.
Personally, I like being in a non-stone age society. I like being over 60 and feeling young. I like electricity and automobiles, planes, restaurants, grocery stores, the ability to give to the charity of my choice and the freedom to be responsible for my own prosperity of failure.
You mention there is tyranny in monied societies. The cruelty and oppression of a moneyless society makes that look like a trip to the county fair. A moneyless society sentences its most productive people to an early grave and no chance to improve the status of their fellow man.
Your moneyless society is a cruel lie--just waiting to be adopted by people too foolish to know what it entails. It spells death for billions and the loss of every gain in lifestyle over the past thousand years. And the utopians wouldn't feel responsible for the inevitable universal tragedy of their malevolent fantasies. Some of them think living in grass and mud huts would be fun. Until they die at the age of 25.