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Originally Posted by LuftWolf
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No, LWAMI puts in sonar values which are just "estimated" not realistic... No one was on an AKula and I doubt your sonar modes is more realitic. It is just your and your informants view of things. Unless you get akula sonarmen to playtest and/or classified information, all you do is shaping the game to what you think is more realistic.
If you made a mod with all your fixes but without changing the sonar balance of akulas, 688, SW, kilo, I would love it. Fixing VLADs, torps not exploding on CMs, 65cm being wakehomer.. its all cool, cause that is information which is purely objective and can easily verified. Maybe messing around with sound propagation is on the edge of the acceptable (I doubt you know a professor of physics and I doubt you made studies about the actual behavior) but I think you just go too far by changing the sensors sicne you never ever been on an akula whatsoever.
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Well one thing can't be denied... my informant is certainly better than the one SCS is using. :rotfl:
Remember, a Collins class sub is as loud as a Han!
Akula sphere sonar is just as sensitive as a SW!
The 688i doesn't have a Tb-23!
The Miasnikovs Papers and the calculations based off of them that jsteed, finiteless, and Amizaur did are totally made up!
What you guys don't realize is that this stuff is NOT pulled from thin air. We have data, and its good data, certainly much better than whatever crap Sonalysts contracted out for.
I've never been on an Akula, but this work was done before me. In fact, this work had been done for DWX, before it was permanently cancelled. If thomas were here, would you still be saying "oh the mod data... its all just made up!".
What a bunch of crap... good thing I really don't care. The mod will continue to improve, even if the ignorance of certain parts of the community does not.
One quick question, has anyone played a modded game where there was a cheater? :hmm:
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I already acknowledged that these kinds of changes are cool. But you cannot change things where you just have a vague idea about the real systems (russian sonars). Thats guessing. You always talk about having good informants, you always say "This is like that, and this is a fact" but you never actually works scientifically by giving us sources, where this information comes from. If you proceed like that in a university / diploma thesis, you wont succeed. Just pretending that somehting is like you want it to be doesnt make it like that. Fx the 688 has a tb23, ok, but pointing this out just means you didnt really read what I said but you read what you wanna see in my post. I said that thoses changes are exactly what I like, cause they are revisable. But messing around with sensiveties without documenting your sources is no way to work scientifically. And if you pretend to make a "realism" mod, you need to work scientifally so your work is verfifyable.
Also, by the way you react, you show totally that its not just about the work, but that it gets personally as soon as someone os criticising your work... psychologically speaking this coulde make one wonder if this is not just all about making it more realistic but also something about being "right and wrong" ... and unless you dcoument your sources and the actual changes (and their values) changing sensiveties of sonars is just a guess... (at least if feels like a guess to the user). If you say its not pulled out of the air, ok, document your sources and why you think these are better and its cool.
cheers!