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Skybird · 05-09-06, 06:30 AM

Honestly, my impression was and is that the Koran is overflowing with calls for violence against all that resist Islam. While the old testament certainly is a very archaic piece of work, it nevertheless is not the basic principle on which Jesus' message is founded on, or can be understood. In my understanding you cannot only follow the teachings of Jesus and ignore the old testament, in my undersatanding you even MUST ignore the old testament if you want to follow the teachings of Jesus. In that he is not different from buddha, like they have so many other similiarities as well. I think the Koran is just a cheap plagiate, prdouced by an obessed mind with high-fyling plans and moinum,ental ambitions for power and control, that abused and self-created "religion" to cover it's own material ambitions and craving for privileges. It calls Christians and Jews forgers of holy scriptures, but is lacking any authenticity itself. And it demands the unconditional surrender, or the overcoming by violance, of anything that is not Islam. Submit, or die. That is the message of Islam in it's most essential version. North Africa, Spain, Sicily, the middle East, the Balcans: it has laways acted like this: submit, or die.

BTW, it is not happening often that in the name of Chrstianity someone starts to blow up busses or blazes bombs on market places, because he does not like something that has happened or not happened. But that this not really rare in case of Islam, isn't it. Jesus never cemanded war and murder, dislacement and torutre of those who did not accept his message. Muhammad did. Both do not compare. the first was a wise man. The latter was a bandit, warmonger and gang-leader. the first talked about winning true freedom. The latter designed the form of Islamic practice so that man's all life is centered around him - Muhammad. He leaves people no rest and no free time to even start thinking about the chance if their could be something more than just worshipping Islam. Very efficient way to prevent rebellions: keep them busy.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1051
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1053

And while we are at it: A little story from Germany:

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-...076/index.html

"In Bochum feierten gestern erstmals Muslime und evangelische Christen gemeinsam den Geburtstag des Propheten Mohammed. Die Feier, die von sieben Moscheengemeinden des türkischen Dachverbandes DITIB organisiert wurde, fand in einer evangelischen Kirche statt. Das klingt irgendwie versöhnlich, also gut. Aber welchen Sinn sollte es haben?

Gestern war Palmsonntag, der Tag, an dem Christen normalerweise den Beginn der Osterwoche begehen. Superintendent Fred Sobiech versuchte in seiner Ansprache vergebens, die beiden Ereignisse notdürftig miteinander zu verbinden: "Heute erinnern wir an die Geburt und das Leben Mohammeds, und mit dem heutigen Tage beginnt zugleich die Woche, die uns Christen zum Karfreitag führen wird, dem Tag an dem Jesus von Nazareth gekreuzigt wurde." Was das eine mit dem anderen zu tun haben sollte, war damit zwar nicht erklärt, aber das war auch nicht zu erwarten."

Der Vorgang erinnert an die Tagung des Industrieverbands im Palast der Republik. Die aber war wenigstens ehrlich ausgeschildert - als Landnahme. "

05-09-06, 06:30 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Honestly, my impression was and is that the Koran is overflowing with calls for violence against all that resist Islam. While the old testament certainly is a very archaic piece of work, it nevertheless is not the basic principle on which Jesus' message is founded on, or can be understood. In my understanding you cannot only follow the teachings of Jesus and ignore the old testament, in my undersatanding you even MUST ignore the old testament if you want to follow the teachings of Jesus. In that he is not different from buddha, like they have so many other similiarities as well. I think the Koran is just a cheap plagiate, prdouced by an obessed mind with high-fyling plans and moinum,ental ambitions for power and control, that abused and self-created "religion" to cover it's own material ambitions and craving for privileges. It calls Christians and Jews forgers of holy scriptures, but is lacking any authenticity itself. And it demands the unconditional surrender, or the overcoming by violance, of anything that is not Islam. Submit, or die. That is the message of Islam in it's most essential version. North Africa, Spain, Sicily, the middle East, the Balcans: it has laways acted like this: submit, or die. BTW, it is not happening often that in the name of Chrstianity someone starts to blow up busses or blazes bombs on market places, because he does not like something that has happened or not happened. But that this not really rare in case of Islam, isn't it. Jesus never cemanded war and murder, dislacement and torutre of those who did not accept his message. Muhammad did. Both do not compare. the first was a wise man. The latter was a bandit, warmonger and gang-leader. the first talked about winning true freedom. The latter designed the form of Islamic practice so that man's all life is centered around him - Muhammad. He leaves people no rest and no free time to even start thinking about the chance if their could be something more than just worshipping Islam. Very efficient way to prevent rebellions: keep them busy. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1051 http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1053 And while we are at it: A little story from Germany: http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-...076/index.html "In Bochum feierten gestern erstmals Muslime und evangelische Christen gemeinsam den Geburtstag des Propheten Mohammed. Die Feier, die von sieben Moscheengemeinden des türkischen Dachverbandes DITIB organisiert wurde, fand in einer evangelischen Kirche statt. Das klingt irgendwie versöhnlich, also gut. Aber welchen Sinn sollte es haben? Gestern war Palmsonntag, der Tag, an dem Christen normalerweise den Beginn der Osterwoche begehen. Superintendent Fred Sobiech versuchte in seiner Ansprache vergebens, die beiden Ereignisse notdürftig miteinander zu verbinden: "Heute erinnern wir an die Geburt und das Leben Mohammeds, und mit dem heutigen Tage beginnt zugleich die Woche, die uns Christen zum Karfreitag führen wird, dem Tag an dem Jesus von Nazareth gekreuzigt wurde." Was das eine mit dem anderen zu tun haben sollte, war damit zwar nicht erklärt, aber das war auch nicht zu erwarten." *Der Vorgang erinnert an die Tagung des Industrieverbands im Palast der Republik. Die aber war wenigstens ehrlich ausgeschildert - als Landnahme. "* __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.