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Old 03-12-17, 10:23 AM   #2794
ikalugin
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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner View Post
We can't do this. Unlike you, we live in a (more believable) democracy and try to uphold basic human rights instead of trying ways around them to play tsar.

How could one ban tourism?
People are free to go where they want.
You are not violating anything, you shouldn't really attack me or my country right from the bat. Let me expand on the two points you selected.

You cannot ban people from travelling to a country as this denies them the right to free movement, however you can make such travel harder. For example you can impose sanctions on the turkish financial and tourism sector companies (and sector wide sanctions are acceptable means in EU it appears), you can ban charter flights to Turkey (but retain regular flights), etc.

Regarding "refugees" - if they come via Turkey from 3rd party states and if we assume that Turkey is a safe country for them (it is not for the Kurds, nor do the Turkish Kurds come from 3rd party states hence why I singled them out) then they are not indeed legitimate refugees (that have to settle in the first safe country they get into) but rather migrants. It is not a human right to improve one's well being at another's expense without consent (and illegal migrants do not ask for consent in the form of say visas).
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