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ikalugin · 03-10-17, 04:17 PM

I think you misunderstand the treaties.

USSR (and it's successor states - ie Russia) had (and we still have) free passage through the straits into the Mediteranian region unless Turkey is at war. In the past Turkey never closed the straits to us.
On the other hand out of region states - for example USA are limited in the presense they can have in the Black Sea region.

This implies that the advantages we would gain from Turkey leaving NATO (and entering into some kind of bilatteral relashionship with Russia) would come in the form of eased logistics (with the forward supply bases) and changed correlation of forces and means (should Turkey enter an alliance with Russia that alliance would completely dominate the Black Sea region and would exsert considerable influence into the eastern Mediteranian due to the added strength of Turkish Navy).

03-10-17, 04:17 PM	#2769
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I think you misunderstand the treaties. USSR (and it's successor states - ie Russia) had (and we still have) free passage through the straits into the Mediteranian region unless Turkey is at war. In the past Turkey never closed the straits to us. On the other hand out of region states - for example USA are limited in the presense they can have in the Black Sea region. This implies that the advantages we would gain from Turkey leaving NATO (and entering into some kind of bilatteral relashionship with Russia) would come in the form of eased logistics (with the forward supply bases) and changed correlation of forces and means (should Turkey enter an alliance with Russia that alliance would completely dominate the Black Sea region and would exsert considerable influence into the eastern Mediteranian due to the added strength of Turkish Navy). __________________ Grumpy as always.