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Originally Posted by u crank
That concern must be tempered with a comparison between the present day laws and checks and balances of the American System of government and that of the Weimar Republic. I'm not an expert but I don't see that a comparison can be made in any way.
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A lot is made of these checks and balances, I remain to be totally convinced, especially when both houses are Republican majority and at some point soon so will be the Supreme Court. The GOP sees Trump as their golden goose who got them into power (although I think most of them have no idea how) and to see how quickly all of the 'Never Trump' camp (with a few exceptions) did a 180 and got in line behind him in the aftermath of his victory.
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Originally Posted by August
Really? You think so?
From your article:
Now show me where Trump has ordered that an entire religion of our fellow citizens should be jailed and killed. You can't and this is the problem in a nutshell.
The media consistently exaggerates anything Trump says and puts the worst possible spin on it because they are controlled by his political opposition. They find useful idiots like this chump to take those exaggerations to a new level with comparisons to a regime from long ago that would have as much chance of getting into power here as a return to the feudal system. We got rid of one tyrant king, we will never anoint another. It wasn't true when they made the same comparisons to Obama and it's not true now, so stop being so eagerly sucked in by this tripe.
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Useful idiots, eh? So this
is a liberal academic conspiracy!
Alright, let's look at Hitler, more accurate, let's look at his speeches...in particular his early speeches. In these he mainly talks about the threat of Jews and Socialism, in particular Bolshevicks. He does not suggest that the Jews should be killed, but warns that they will destroy Germany if they are allowed to because that's all they know how to do. Some people who were affiliated to the Nazis, or supporters of them may have spoken of extermination, particularly those from the Deutschvölkischer Schutz- und Trutzbun, whos members included Heydrich and whose constitution included "
The Bund fights for the moral rebirth of the German people . . . It considers the pernicious and destructive influence of Jewry to be the main cause of the defeat and the removal of this influence to be necessary for the political and economic recovery of Germany, and for the salvation of German culture"
Then, later, as the Nazis came to power, came mentions of 'annihilation' or 'extermination' of the Jews, who were their political, social and economic enemies (one of them at least, with Bolshevism right alongside them).
It didn't
start with gas chambers, it started with the state encouraging division, and looking the other way when that division lead to violence against their targets.
Now,
I'll only be too happy if Trump just bumbles along the next four to eight years and nothing exciting happens, but the social atmosphere is there for some real problems, and that, as well as some of Trumps comments is what is getting people worried, it's the rise of things like the 'Alt-Right', of 'Alt-Truth', of increased division and hostility. If it doesn't happen in America then it's going to happen somewhere else, most likely in Eastern Europe. Something bad is coming, and it's not the Muslim boogeyman under the bed, but what was awoken in us after 9/11.