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Old 01-26-17, 03:49 PM   #38
Oberon
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Prisoners are a problem, some countries dont want them back others will take them but the prison fears for his life and doesnt want to go. Bring them here and its endless litigation, lawyers making money off it demanding to know about things the government doesnt want to tell, it would be one helluva circus. We could covertly drop them off in the Chicago they'd blend right in

Im not even sure the military base needs to stay. I was there in the early 80's and it was a very very busy Feet Training Group. Ships, people were every where, families, golf courses, post exchange, bowling ally, the famous cattle car. Went back in late nineties and the place looked desolate, hardly the hustle and bustle base it once was. Just a place to drop off illegal immigrants until they could be repatriated to Haiti.

Personally I could care less about that place. Other than it being used in the national interest as leverage for a future deal with Cuba I see little use for it.
That is a similar problem with deportation, you send them back, and the country sends them straight back again, usually without a passport. That and staffing difficulties are some of the reasons deportation centers are nearly always full, and perfect grounds for extremist breeding.

Real Catch-22, no good answer to it.

You've got a fair point on the military base, although the trouble with closing them is not knowing if you'd need it again in the future, but it would be a good little bit of publicity to either hand it back or exchange it with Cuba for something. Dunno if it's something a Republican president could do unless it was a Nixon to China sort of affair, but Democrats would probably love it. Not sure it'd go down so well in Florida though, depends on what sort of leverage you got out of it I guess.

But yeah, honestly...I'm in favour of drone warfare, but on the proviso that it's super-accurate, low yield weaponry dealing with targets on an individual basis. One shot, one kill. Zero collateral. That's the anti-insurgent warfare that the west should be working towards, IMHO. Of course, the big weak point there is intel, which brings us into a very current topic of conversation, 'enhanced interrogation techniques' aka torture.
I can see why it would be a tempting route to take, but I don't think the negative publicity and political fallout are worth it, not when you can get almost as much intel through ELINT and global allied networks.
At the very least, if you're going to reinstitute torture then don't brag about it on primetime television, that's just stupid.
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