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Old 01-23-17, 08:11 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Tango589 View Post
I agree, he just seems to be relaxed, down to earth and had a genuinely decent family.
Similar impression in Germany, but in the USA they all seem to hate him. Well not all.. but on Facebook and some US forums the sheer hate expressed is unbelievable, and hard to understand and swallow.

Seems he is a red rag for the "right", because he dared to try to initiate better relations with the Middle East and arabian countries, when he began his presidency. Then getting Bin Laden was a success, though an international tribunal would maybe have been better.
I have no ball in the matter anyway, negative points for me are that Guantanamo is not being closed, and the use of drones to kill insurgents together with what is so lightly called "collateral damage" without court decision.. but then he did not put american soldiers to a direct threat that way. The question is whether a president can even decide about the use of drones himself and alone.

Of course a lot of projects did not succeed, some because of congress, some because he was too idealistic, or not cyncial enough. Or expecting that certain nationalist states would have any kind of logic, or common sense. Well after the arabian answer to an outstretched hand, the US/We/the West will not try this again.
Whatever, he tried to make a lot of things better.
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