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Rick Fortens · 04-17-16, 01:17 PM

Have you noticed that the maps in those games are abnormaly large : along the equator, from the meridian 0 to the meridian 1 for instance, there is 120 Km. On the real earth it is 111,195 Km. Worse, it is exactly the same, for instance, at 80 degrees of latitude: Between the same two meridians, there’s still have 120 Km (and it took the same time, at the same speed, to run the two distances in a sub in a test mission). But, in those latitudes, and because that all meridians finaly rejoined each other at the pole, there’s remains, on the real earth, only 19 Km to run to join the same two lines. With the consequence that, in the game, the distance between Oslo and Helsinki is about 1700 Km, while, in the real life, it’s under 800. With the consequence also that the campain game is far to long to run, and not realistic either.

I’ve figured that out when I try to reconstruct the journey of the Bismarck in a single mission : between two historical coordinates and hours, the ship should have to run at 64 knots to join the two points in time, a speed that the Bismarck never reached. That’s also why the single missions in the game always begins near to there objectives.

So ... Finding those facts weird, I have tried to correct the problem. Using the marvelous tool named SH3 Terrain Extractor, I extract all the necessary parts of the map and entirely reconstruct the North Atlantic. There is the result :

With this map, the distances remains, in diagonal, a bit to long, but incomparably more accurate than the former one. Now, Oslo and Helsinki are about the proper distance from each other. It’s also the case from Brest to New Foundland.

I would like to know what you think about I’ve said about the huge dimension of the maps in Silent Hunter. Am I wright or am I only lost ? I would like to know also what you think about the work I’ve done on it.

I just hope that my English is understandable. Waiting for your answers.

Silenthunterly yours,
From Québec city,
Richard Rick Fortens

04-17-16, 01:17 PM	#1
Rick Fortens Seaman Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city Posts: 36 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	The excessive dimensions of the maps in SH II to SH V Have you noticed that the maps in those games are abnormaly large : along the equator, from the meridian 0 to the meridian 1 for instance, there is 120 Km. On the real earth it is 111,195 Km. Worse, it is exactly the same, for instance, at 80 degrees of latitude: Between the same two meridians, there’s still have 120 Km (and it took the same time, at the same speed, to run the two distances in a sub in a test mission). But, in those latitudes, and because that all meridians finaly rejoined each other at the pole, there’s remains, on the real earth, only 19 Km to run to join the same two lines. With the consequence that, in the game, the distance between Oslo and Helsinki is about 1700 Km, while, in the real life, it’s under 800. With the consequence also that the campain game is far to long to run, and not realistic either. I’ve figured that out when I try to reconstruct the journey of the Bismarck in a single mission : between two historical coordinates and hours, the ship should have to run at 64 knots to join the two points in time, a speed that the Bismarck never reached. That’s also why the single missions in the game always begins near to there objectives. So ... Finding those facts weird, I have tried to correct the problem. Using the marvelous tool named SH3 Terrain Extractor, I extract all the necessary parts of the map and entirely reconstruct the North Atlantic. There is the result : With this map, the distances remains, in diagonal, a bit to long, but incomparably more accurate than the former one. Now, Oslo and Helsinki are about the proper distance from each other. It’s also the case from Brest to New Foundland. I would like to know what you think about I’ve said about the huge dimension of the maps in Silent Hunter. Am I wright or am I only lost ? I would like to know also what you think about the work I’ve done on it. I just hope that my English is understandable. Waiting for your answers. Silenthunterly yours, From Québec city, Richard Rick Fortens Last edited by Rick Fortens; 04-17-16 at 02:33 PM.