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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
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Originally Posted by micky1up
@Sailor Steve
ok my facts where not correct but cant you see my point.
That bill of rights was written hundreds of years ago and is way out of date. Kap's shotiing his pal cause he pissed him off proves something if your upset and angry like most humans get more than once a day and you have a gun in your hand then its going to happen. The mix of human emotion and firearms is not a good one but a country that has at least 1 firearm for evrery person is asking for trouble.
And yes i have an opinion like everyone else but my extreme is the oposite of your's and your nations blinkered view about your rights is what is the underlying problem. Do u know that the USA has the least percentage of people that own a passport also the least percentage that learn another language. And you have the cheek to call other nations insular and isolationalist.
You have a word that you use all the time which you have no concept of: FREEDOM. Except in one way the freedom to kill each other at random with firearms. You actually do that quite well!
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I will agree that any freedom requires some responsibility. On the other hand, I live in a state that is larger than the main island of the British Isles, yet has a total population of just two million people. A friend who lives just outside of Salt Lake City owns horses and has problems with mountain lions. Dick Cheney was criticized for supporting gun ownership, but no one ever points out that he is from Wyoming, a state much larger than Utah yet with less than half the population. Where he's from it's possible to have a bear-or a burglar-come through the window, and the nearest cop is 300 miles away.
I don't own a passport or speak another language, both of which I sometimes regret. On the other hand, I live in a country that is larger than all of western Europe combined. The nearest large city from mine-Las Vegas-is a six-hour drive away, at 100 kph. The only country I could possibly visit without making an all-day flight is Mexico, and they are more than eager to learn English; except of course the ones who are here, and they want us all to speak Spanish.
I agree that places like New York may need strong gun control; we don't, and for that reason I stand against national gun control laws. |
Well put SS. Except, I don't think gun control should be in New York either. Look at my statistics above. The drop in violent crime coincides with the mass issuance of Concealed Weapons Permits - and it had a dramatic effect almost overnight. We now have 1/3rd the violent crime in the US since states started doing this.
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PS. I forgot to mention that states that kept their control laws and did not adopt CWP's have continued on at the very same rate prior to the 1990's in number of violent crimes. So technically, overall the statistics should be even lower, but these few states that held out and refused to issue permits are dragging the numbers up - making it look worse than it actually is for most states, even though it looks really good - it should look better!
PPS. As of 1998, our violent crime rate had already dropped to less than half of Englands rate (That statistic is buried in this forum somewhere - I found the actual reported English violent crimes), so as of today, we are probably 1/4 or less than England now.