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Old 02-19-16, 09:18 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Gargamel View Post
While this may seem like a simple case, the suspect is dead, and they are looking for loose ends and leads for conspirators, it's not a path we want to take.

If apple does this once, just once, then the precedent is set to keep doing it. This is a pandora's box scenario.

First off, the tech. They can't (supposedly) do it right now. They would have to engineer a solution to break their own security. That itself is a bad idea. Companies get hacked, all the time. If this security crack got loose, it would destroy their entire business model, or at least a good portion of it. Every other phone out there that would be accessible by this crack would be vulnerable to hacking.

Then there's the precedent of it. If they did it in this one case, then what's stopping the government from 'forcing' them to do it again? Nothing. And in fact, we all know it will happen.

I'll paraphrase Franklin here. Those would give up some freedom for a little security, deserve neither freedom nor security.
Well said. I saw a piece where high ranking members of the NSA visited with the heads of Google, Facebook, Apple and many others to request the same access to their records, servers and anything else they could think of. I will try to find the piece again.

As you and most of us have said, once a precedence is established, it will never end.

Some have said they don't like Tim Cook and that he may well be doing this to protect his company. Isn't this what a good CEO is supposed to do ? Whatever Tim's reasons might be, I applaud his efforts to protect his clients and customers.

No one wants terrorism or loss of life and I think most want to help law enforcement including these companies and the average citizen. I think the only solution is a valid court order for a specific individual of interest. This way, law enforcement has to show probable cause and it's specifics .

I thought Congress effectively legislated Nov 27 of 2015 that the NSA wasn't to be able to collect bulk records. One thing is clear, this is a highly contentious issue that won't easily be resolved short of having the case heard by the Supreme Court.

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