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Originally Posted by Oberon
Look at PEGIDA, they're not against Jews and yet a keynote speaker (a Turk) at one of their rallies calling for the removal of Muslims from Germany says that "there were other alternatives - but unfortunately the concentration camps are out of order at the moment."
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You are just not correctly informed, and German media indeed have started a campaign on that, spreading a total misinterpretation of what Akif Pirincci actually has said and they did so by my most favourite rethoric overkill trick: quoting out of context. Oh how well I know this trick. If I would have gotten a dollar every time it was tried on me, I would be able to buy a new bicycle . An expensive one.
I am no fan of Pirincci, for reasons that do not belong here, however, the full quote is going like this:
"Offenkundig scheint man bei der Macht die Angst und den Respekt vor dem eigenen Volk so restlos abgelegt zu haben, dass man ihm schulterzuckend die Ausreise empfehlen kann, wenn er gefälligst nicht pariert. Es gäbe natürlich andere Alternativen, aber die KZ sind ja derzeit außer Betrieb.“
Translation: Obviously those in power have lost any fear and concern of the people , that with a shouldershrug now one can even recommend all Germans (objecting the indiscrimated mass migration into Germany, Skybird) to simply leave Germany themselves, if they do not want to obey as they should. There could be another alternative, of course, but unfortunately the KZs are offline currently.
An aggressive rethoric by the man, no doubt, but one that is typical for him.
This quote stands in a context. Pirincci at this part of his speech referred to an event from Octobre 14th 2015, when the Regierungspräsdident (governing president) of the city of Kassel, Walther Lübke, a CDU man, used a public assembly to tell the public and journalists that germans who disagree with Merkel's policy to let in everybody who wants to come, are free and would not be hinderd to leave Germany once and forever.
Pirincci is a provoking, obscene writer, he is know to use gutter language to make his points, because in Germany political correctness and collective duty to comply with ordered "voluntary" solidarity and consensus on opinions and views have been pushed that far that this is the only way to get noticed in streamlined mass media anymore. I may sympathise with what he has to say, but I do not like the way he delivers his points, he offers too open flanks for counterattacking his cause, by that doing it more damage than benefits. But one thing he is not, on this here can be no doubt: he is neither a Nazi, nor a blind Muslim-hater wanting to slaughter them in scores. That is bull.
Needless to say that our German quality media totally and completely ignored the context and full quote I explained. But what I give there is true, you can easily check it out via the web if you understand German. Pirincci, a Muslim of Turkish decent, knowing quite well what he is talking and writing about when writing about Islam, may not be a good speaker, and his provoking and vulgar gutter language is not everybody's taste (its the reasons I do not line up with him and his side), but one has to understand that this is stage-acting only, an extreme tool he uses, and often abuses and uses beyond the limits. Which shows imo that he is either not too clever, or or is helpless somewhat. However, his shamelessness is possible only because he was not raised in Germany, and it helps him to disrespect the demanded consensus of politically demanded "right" views and opinions. However, it is easier to paint him as an Islamophobic irrational man hater and Nazi sympathiser, than to care for trying to counter the points he makes in his essays and writings - and which are much more difficult to counter than just defaming the man and mobilizing the masses by telling lies about him.
Finally, Pirincci since then is in a huge legal offensive against media, organisations and individuals, sueing them for defamation, slander and character assassination. And he is winning them and already has won several of them. Another thing you do not read about in Geman quality media.
Personally I do not like him, but I defend him. its a case of defending free speech and fighting back slander and lies that gets used as weapons to destroy resistance to the wanted official political goals.
The speech, btw, was a very bad one anyway. He simply is no good speaker anyway, and too shy for the task. This makes the cointrast between his vulgarities and provokations, and his friendly, shy and polite appearasnce even more - well, it just doe snot match.
Stick to your essays and books, Akif.
But don't hold speeches on public stages. Sometimes its better to just write songs - but leave the singing of them to others.