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Old 12-13-15, 09:11 AM   #489
Schroeder
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Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
Then tell me, how do you fight 'Islam' without fighting every single Muslim on the planet?
No more massive mosques. No more special rights for Muslims (they can slaughter animals here in ways that are violating our animal protection laws but religious freedom trumps animal rights...). No more mass immigration of Muslims.
Immediate deportation of radical preachers and criminals without a German passport (regardless of religion). You come to this country you follow our rules, period!
That's how I would do it. No violence. No concentration camps, no harassment for the average Muslim John Doe who just wants to get by.

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It's like saying that you must fight Christianity, or fight Sikhism, you are going to force every single follower of that religion into the defensive, and you are going to create that holy war that the radical followers of that religion want you to create.
So you also think we should stop being against Nazism? After all all that you said is also perfectly applicable towards Nazism....
Same thing, two scales.

And what is the alternative? Just bending over and take it?

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I don't believe it would be particularly wise to set up camps for Muslims, like Donald Trump wants to, but I have no problem with imprisoning Islamic extremists.
Trump is an idiot and setting up camps is stupid (and I've never advocated that). I do have a problem with imprisoning extremists though and that is that they will get free again after a few years. Deportation is the only solution I see for them to prevent them from doing their thing in my country.

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Probably because if all Muslims were the evil scumbags you seem to think they are then we'd be dead by now, since there are 2 billion odd of them.
Read again. I've never said that all Muslims are evil scumbags, I repeatedly said that the ideology is evil. It's the same as with Nazi Germany. Not every German was/is a scumbag but the ideology that ruled the place was highly dangerous and evil and made a lot of people commit atrocities. Just like Islam.
Besides most Islamic countries lack the military power to be really dangerous. Maybe you should ask some Israelis what would happen to them if the neighboring Muslim countries had the military capacity to overrun them....
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