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Old 11-17-15, 09:58 AM   #4764
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Originally Posted by ExFishermanBob View Post
The worst would be indy and still in the EU - what would be the point?
What would be the point indeed. In that case better the devil you know, than the one you don't. We just need to come to a fairer solution than the one everyone in the UK currently has. I'm a federalist, not a unionist (smacks of Northern Ireland and it's "issues", that term), but I can't see the Tories going anywhere near the idea for ideological reasons, at least for now. It would certainly help fix things, anyway.

Anyway, going back to Scotland itself, as I see it, what I think could be at least one driving factor is what might be called the "big trough" factor. Part of the reason Scotland agreed to the union with England was to get direct access to England's colonial territories and the money and trade that they represented. It tried it's own colonial venture at Darien and failed miserably, hence another reason for the union, a financial bail out. For England, the union cured a very big worry - a potentially unfriendly northern land border to be defended in addition to the equally unfriendly French to the south and the unreliable, rebellious Irish to the West.

Perhaps, now that the Empire is gone, it could be said that the UK as it now stands isn't a big enough trough for the Scottish political class to swill from. The EU is. Very, very much so.

Which is very reminiscent of a much, much older Scottish stereotype - the avaricious, greedy Scot which raised it's head after James the VI of Scotland became the James the I of England. The English nobility were not happy at the sudden influx of Scots nobles who came south with him!

Mike.
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