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Originally Posted by MaDef
I think you and others like you are operating under the fallacy that the U.S is just like the one depicted in the old Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns. not to mention you are getting the "facts" from people and organizations that have agendas.
take a look at the numbers for 2013 without any commentary.
U.S population
316,000,000
total deaths (disease, accidents, murder, & old age, etc)
2,596,993
Total gun deaths
34,048
gun deaths from murder
12,253
gun deaths from accidents, suicides, and justifiable killings
21,795
1.3% of all deaths that year can be attributed to firearms.
that's not an epidemic, thats a statistic. When that number hits 5%, then you start looking at solutions to deal with the issue. If that number hits 10%, you then implement those aggreed upon solutions.
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Some more statistics, a bit dated, around 10 years old, German Wikipedia, basing on Small Arms Survey 2004:
Number of killing incidents per 100,000 population:
USA 3.45 - Canada 0.55 - GER - 0.19
Number of legal firearms owned per killing incident with a firearm:
GER 194K - CAN 48K - USA 28K
Number of legally owned firearms (in brackets: total population in 2014)
USA 281 bn (318 bn)- CAN - 7.9 bn (35 bn) - GER 5.5 bn (80 bn)
Factors for the above ("how many people own one firearm")
USA 1.1 - CAN 4.4 - GER 14.6
Number of homicides with firearms, per 100K firearms
USA 4.2 - CAN 2.2 - GER 0.6
Granted, there are places with much higher numbers of horror. All of them belong to third world countries, failed states, Russia and Latin America. Does one really want to excuse one's own falure by comparing oneself to third world standards?
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Shootings like this happen in other countries, too.
But in no way one could compare the frequencies of occurrences.
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Of course I had the civilized, the first world on mind when writing that.