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Originally Posted by ikalugin
But, yea, "all German women were raped by the soviets" is the old myth that dies slowly.
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As I just read some western propaganda leaflets:
"Many Russians find all mention of the wartime rapes offensive and they are regularly dismissed as a Western myth in the Russian media."
...and here you are, claiming exactly that.
Personally, I don't care if Russians raped Germans or Italians raped Inuit, or Martians some Venusians -
people raped
people, for whatever reason and no matter how you look at it, it was a crime and history books don't refer to this particular event as
"the rape of Berlin" for no reason.
Yes yes,
inb4historyiswrittenbythevictor and as soon as something speaks against anything Russian, it is -
of course - a myth, propaganda or whatever kind of lie, not like the glorious Sovi...
Russian sources who coincidentally claim the
complete opposite, trying to lower the numbers as much as possible, therefor accusing thousands of Women to be lying
.
Also, not only German Women raised claims over mass-rapings, some Russian soldiers admitted or reported events like that as well.
"Twenty-two Hoeringstrasse. It's not been burned, just looted, rifled. A moaning by the walls, half muffled: the mother's wounded, half alive. The little daughter's on the mattress, dead. How many have been on it? A platoon, a company perhaps? A girl's been turned into a woman, a woman turned into a corpse. . . . The mother begs, "Soldier, kill me!"
- Solzhenitsyn
"We were young, strong, and four years without women. So we tried to catch German women and ... Ten men raped one girl. There were not enough women; the entire population run from the Soviet Army. So we had to take young, twelve or thirteen year-old. If she cried, we put something into her mouth. We thought it was fun. Now I can not understand how I did it. A boy from a good family... But that was me."
- An army officer
"When we occupied every town, we had first three days for looting and ... [rapes]. That was unofficial of course. But after three days one could be court-martialed for doing this. ... I remember one raped German woman laying naked, with hand grenade between her legs. Now I feel shame, but I did not feel shame back then... Do you think it was easy to forgive [the Germans]? We hated to see their clean undamaged white houses. With roses. I wanted them to suffer. I wanted to see their tears. ... Decades had to pass until I started feeling pity for them."
- A Russian telephone operator
The truth is probably somewhere in between when we want to get close to the
real number of rapes
,
but the term
"rape of Berlin" is for sure not just for dramatic effect and claiming it is just a myth is very disrespectful towards those who had to endure this event.
Don't let your national pride get in the way of the truth, it only hurts your credibility.