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Originally Posted by Khayman
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
You boys had 150 ships at Jutland and the Germans only 100 yet they mopped the floor with you when it came down to the actual fighting. :P
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Ah, so The Germans didn't turn tail and run when they realised the Grand Fleet was not only at sea but also engaging them. I guess if they mopped the floor then the High Seas Fleet was now safe to sortie whenever they wanted after Jutland  |
They won the day (and proved the British don't know how to use Battlecruisers- a lesson they never learned) not my fault they didn’t act on it.
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I'd take issue with the French being a major factor in the loss of the American colonies. From what I've read they hardly did a thing. They were asked by US Commanders to help, but they frequently either refused and sailed home or to the Caribbean. Getting them to do something helpful was like pulling teeth.
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Did you know they gave us Colonials basics like Bayonets when we had none? Although only a few fought on American soil (La Fayette, Rochambeau and his troops) they did provide some critical aid at the most important time. French and Spanish (and Dutch) forced the British to fight a lot of other wars at the same time taking the heat off us. The Spanish besieged Gibraltar for three years but were defeated. The Dutch took a beating for trading openly with the Colonials. The sacrifice of this people were very important to us Americans gaining freedom even if some don’t see it.
The United Republic (The Netherlands old name) was also the first country to salute the American Flag.
(I think that at one point a few decades before they refused to salute a ship flying the British Flag, then the British declared war on them!
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