I think any dutchman can win when he has 86 ships and the British just over fifty.We also won the battle of Lowestoft!![url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Days_Battle
As to the war of Independence the colonies needed the help of the french to win and where did it get the latter?An invitation to the scaffold less than ten years later as the french state was bankrupt financially and morally
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