I thought that to win an argument you had to present facts that were beyond dispute. Unfortunately it seems the trend here is just to "muddy the waters" with and if here, and maybe there, and you win the debate. I'm surprised no one here has dragged out the Iraqi guy that Fox news presented a little while back to claim that all the WMD's were flown to Syria. So excuse me while I continue to hold onto the "Marvin the Martian stole Iraq's WMD's" line.
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"In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)
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