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Old 08-16-15, 09:18 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by CCIP View Post
I raised a point on the other (SHIII forum) but one thing that is good to keep in mind between SH3 and SH4 is how much room the US fleet boats had to grow and improve compared to the U-boats. The fleet boats were not really designed for the role they were performing, and it took them a while to figure out the enemy and find their own strong points. But when they got it ironed out, the fleet boats proved very much up to the tasks. This contrasts nicely with SH3's U-boats, which basically had just above the minimum capability to perform the specific task they were designed for, and not much more - and as the war went on, they found themselves pressed up against their limits, and beyond.

If you go and visit some of the fleet boat museums and contrast them with, say, what you find aboard the U-505, with a discerning eye you'll see the differences right away - American submarines were a whole generation ahead of the U-boats; they had power and room to spare, and the equipment - from radar to the diving control systems - was a whole new ball game compared to the U-boats which still operated largely by manual turning of a lot of valves, Mk.I eyeball and direct drive propulsion. The U-boats are an elderly diesel-powered Vokswagen Golf from the 1980s to the fleet boats' shiny new 2015 Tesla Model S. It takes a while to sort out the kinks on the new tech, sure, and you still get a lot of mileage efficiently out of an old diesel, but there's a huge difference technologically that you'll feel right away.

There's a lot of naysaying about fleet boats being slow and unweildy, most of it totally unjustified. Besides diving depth and speed of dive, U-boats really don't have much on them - the fleet boat is by and far the more capable, it's just that you have to learn to use it right.
You may have a point. I've played SH3 for some time now. Played stock, GWX and LSH3. I love the game and can do amazing things in my favourite IXB. I recently tried SH4 and just couldn't get myself to like it. There were many things I didn't like about the subs and how the crew performed. Perhaps I need to give it a chance.

As for pushing the limits of the U-boats.....I think you'll find that's one of the things us Kaleuns like about the job.
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