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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner
I never said it is morally acceptable.
But I already explained why I would prefer (for example) a blockade, a demonstration, further tries of negotiations (yes yes, fanatic suicide samurai, all of them, I know...) over directly, instantly and willingly killing a few ten thousand people, favorably civilians.
If you drop these bombs and turn thousands to ashes, you bear the responsibility for that.
If you block the island because a stubborn government is unwilling to accept defeat - the responsibility shifts towards this government.
That makes a huge difference to me.
All I said in the end is that, for me, nothing justifies the usage of nuclear weapons. You start to disappoint me for not understanding this rather simple point of view/opinion, insisting that only because I condemn these actions I therefore have the burden to find a better solution, which is nonsensical actually.
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"As to willingly let them starve - I never said that and honestly I think it is a very different thing to drop 2 bombs, killing thousands, or be passive about it and give things a CHANCE to maybe work out not as bad as we all predict today."
You state, as quoted above, that it not immoral to let the children starve,
as long as you have the option of "being passive" to pretend that you didn't cause their deaths. 2 things come from this,
1. you don't know what a blockade is, it is actively sinking or turning back all shipping, so your moral cover is gone - you are killing them, just on delay.
The other thing that comes out of the discussion is that it is all about your feelings rather than facts - Chinese, Malays, Singaporeans being raped, tortured or murdered and you can stop it, but it's no problem as long as you don't do anything that makes you feel bad about yourself.
POWS tortured, starved and murdered, all good as long as you feel good.
Millions of Japanese men women and children to starve in the blockade, no problem as long as you don't do anything "active" that makes you feel bad about yourself, no matter how farcical the excuse that you didn't do it to them.
I also note you have still failed to answer the question, if, since nothing justifies the atomic bombs, the invasion is necessary - would you volunteer to be in the first wave up the beach and die with the other 250,000 or so allied troops you'd condemn to that fate? yes or no will do.