[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by ColonelSandersLite

I had to come out of lurking for this one. Honestly, RR doesn't know what he's talking about.

Originally Posted by ColonelSandersLite

Besides which, you're going to have to do better than posting a BBC article to better the two fairly heavyweight academic sources I gave you.

If you want to keep arguing this, you're going to have to come up with a lot of internally consistent counter arguments based in actual facts to even attain the lofty status of "half right".

To be clear, when the other party has posted fact after fact, often with sources, that directly contradict a great number of blatant errors, you must come up with something more compelling than a single, largely irrelevant journalistic source to save any remaining credibility for your theory.

Originally Posted by ColonelSandersLite

Perhaps the fault here is that you didn't bother to go past a "simple reading of the title" and actually read the thing.

Maybe you should start "looking stuff up". The fact that you're talking "off the cuff" really, really shows.

Still no facts though. Numerous egregious factual errors are required for your pet theory to work, and so far you've hardly made any attempt to back up a single one. Good job.

Originally Posted by ColonelSandersLite

Don't confuse the correction of factual errors with animosity.

If you had actually bothered to look it up...

Are ya psychic now RR?

You have provided no facts to back yourself up. None. I, on the other hand, have provided numerous facts, often with documentation, on all 5 of the points above directly to the contrary.

Try backing up your opinion with some evidence.

Possibly not animosity, but certainly arrogant dismissal. Continually insulting the other party and loudly proclaiming yourself the victor is not the way to debate a subject. I'm not disagreeing with your arguments. In fact I'm enjoying this discussion.

That said, please stick with your arguments and leave the superior attitude and the insults at home.